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Title: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: neeldub on June 26, 2013, 10:49:01 PM
Here are official pictures of the new SkyAvtive Mazda 3 based on the KODO design. It was launched today as part of a global launch party.

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Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: FemGearHead on June 27, 2013, 01:41:42 AM
I like the new body style more than the current style, however not sure I like the interior. One thing I love about my car is the waterfall like cascading center console. It feels comfortable and looks great. Not sure I like how the new center console is all bunched up. It reminds me of how the 2004 Acura RSX was like and that felt so cheap to me.

I guess I'd have to see the car in person to decide.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: yarb on June 27, 2013, 08:34:48 AM
I agree like the outside not the inside, on my mk2 sport I like the display with the radio info and sat nav tucked away not something that looks like its been fitted as an after thought but I guess that's progress ???
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on June 27, 2013, 09:16:07 AM
For those who like me who are having trouble visualising this as a right hand drive, I have flipped the images.

DISCLAIMER    This is a representation based on the provided images. There may be some variations in the actual finished product.

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j124/willpower128/2013interior1_zpsfd7b833f.jpg)


(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j124/willpower128/2013interior2_zpsce8fa32f.jpg)

Is that a Head Up Display screen I see in front of the steering wheel in the first picture ? ?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: bignose1972 on June 27, 2013, 09:43:10 AM
Love the shape and sure it'll be a big seller for Mazda.

I'm glad they've got rid of that boot release button on the Mk II and gone back to basics.

I read in What Car that it'll be released with 3 x skyactive petrol engines (1 x 1.5 and 2 x 2.0) and just the same 2.2 diesel engine as the Mk II. Wonder why they're not releasing the skyactive diesel engine yet?

I'd love to upgrade but not too sure if my budget will allow.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Vilius on June 27, 2013, 05:39:01 PM
What puzzles me is the displacement of the 2.2 diesel engine. The skyactive one in CX-5 and Mazda6 new is 2191cm3 where the 2.2 diesel in new Mazda3 has 2184 cm3 - as much as the current 2.2 MZR-CD. Does this mean that Mazda silently reverted back from "new skyactive" to the older 2.2 diesel, refreshed with some "skyactive technology", for example, with lower compression ratio of 14:1?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Ad on June 27, 2013, 07:52:34 PM
For those who like me who are having trouble visualising this as a right hand drive, I have flipped the images.

DISCLAIMER    This is a representation based on the provided images. There may be some variations in the actual finished product.

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j124/willpower128/2013interior1_zpsfd7b833f.jpg)


(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j124/willpower128/2013interior2_zpsce8fa32f.jpg)

Is that a Head Up Display screen I see in front of the steering wheel in the first picture ? ?

I don't really see the point for the screen to be facing centrally. Surely the screen should be positioned so it is easy to see by the driver (ie skewed on the dashboard). Unless this also works as a TV so the passengers can watch a movie or something. Other than that I don't get it.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: neeldub on June 27, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
i think the screen flips out electronically. Plus looks like the new 3 will only be available in hatchbacks
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on June 28, 2013, 12:00:06 AM
.....................................Plus looks like the new 3 will only be available in hatchbacks

 That's me not getting one then.. LOL
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 185sport on June 29, 2013, 06:16:06 AM
According to Autoexpress (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/mazda/3/64707/all-new-mazda-3-2014-revealed) there will be a saloon version as well.  Autoexpress also says the diesel will be the new one from the Mazda 6.

In addition this (http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2013-06/2014-mazda3-will-have-head-display) article claims that the upgraded infotainment system, i.e. the sticking up centre console blob, will also have a heads-up display, see the grey bit sticking up in front of the steering wheel.




Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on June 29, 2013, 09:39:43 AM
I have edited the above post to make the links work and to rectify the fact that the first link is from Autoexpress and not Autotrader.

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Is that a Head Up Display screen I see in front of the steering wheel in the first picture ? ?

In addition this (http://"http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2013-06/2014-mazda3-will-have-head-display") article claims that the upgraded infotainment system, i.e. the sticking up centre console blob, will also have a heads-up display, see the grey bit sticking up in front of the steering wheel.

Ah Ha   thought so.   Interesting.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 185sport on July 01, 2013, 01:10:30 PM
I have edited the above post to make the links work and to rectify the fact that the first link is from Autoexpress and not Autotrader.

Oops early morning brain fart, thanks
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: hogi on July 04, 2013, 11:47:28 PM
Yep, looks good and I don't mind the interior redesign, its a little 'sharper' and they had to do something - its an upgrade after all, so it had to change. Just needs a bit of getting used to for some.

What do people think of the grill redesign? To me its a big step forward and quite distinctive. I think Mazda have had problems with the front for a number of years, generally leaving the cars a bit anonymous(?). Well this Kodo design makes a bigger statement - but with shades of volvo within it do you think? Or is it just me? It will be interesting to see what they can do with that on the MPS version.

I like the comment from AE that it could be mistaken for a 6, which is a handsome beast but LARGE - it might be a problem if it were mistaken for a Micra for example!

Maybe one will be mine in 4-5 years when they trickle down into the second hand market  ::)
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: YoungTurk on July 07, 2013, 12:42:35 AM
Externally looks fine but I don't like the new dash! I will not be rushing to upgrade for a while then...  :(
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: inayellowshirt on July 23, 2013, 09:55:19 AM
I agree with most that I like the lines of the body, but the internals seem a step backward except for the HUD. The media/sat nav screen looks out of place compared to the 2009 built in version.

Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Newbs on July 23, 2013, 11:03:40 PM
the dash and centre console is a complete rip off of the new bmw 1 series, including the crap display.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Jano on August 13, 2013, 12:05:18 PM
Will definitely be going for a look in December, spoke to a salesman (my mum just bought a 2 auto) at the weekend and they are genuinely excited about the 3, can't wait to get them in and they have had a lot of interest in them it seems. Was also very impressed with the new 6, as it was the first time I'd ever managed to get close to one for a proper look.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: mazda_3_mzrcd on August 13, 2013, 06:56:28 PM
I will have to see one in the flesh, pictures do nothing justice. Not too sure off it from the pics but will have to see, it may grow on me when I see it properly
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Mister P on September 15, 2013, 04:59:02 PM
Looks good, but I wonder if they've got rid of the road noise?  :-\
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: figgyburn on September 18, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
Hi,just had a 10 min spin in the new 3 whilst holidaying in the states.dealer only let me round a few streets as obviously he was not going to get a sale from me and he should not really have allowed me to drive it but it was first thing in the morning and the streets of rural Montgomery,Alabama on a Sunday were deserted..fleeting impressions are as follows nice and solid,great new steering wheel,an auto so cannot say to much re manual trans .can't say about the road noise as I did not get a long enough drive.the inside is a step up quality wise. good materials used but,there is no flair to it.both of the info pads on the dash stick out like a sore thumbs.it as though the were added as an afterthought.I would have liked them to have been integrated into the dash or to have it rising up/down from the dash.this model was in liquid silver metallic and a basic model and I'm afraid it looked very bland.it reminds me of a Alfa guilietta shapewise.the available colours on the brochure are all quite basic the soul red being the most outstanding colour.no more winning blue.apart from the new nose I feel that the new 3 will guickly be lost in the crowd after a few are seen on the road.now love or loath the looks of second Gen 3 it at least got people talking.I feel this model may not have the same reaction.cheers john


Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: wurzel on September 24, 2013, 12:39:49 PM
Not been on here a while since I sold my MPS, but I noticed this in TG earlier today:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/mazda-3-first-drive-car-review-2013-09-24

Bit of an odd review in my opinion - the byline implies that it's not very good, but the summary is that it's got class-leading handling and lots of kit and should be considered against a Focus & Golf. 

Personally, I like the front, not completely sold on the back 3/4 though - looks a bit Astra-ish for me.  The interior looks smart and there's loads of kit including the head-up display.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: huwdavid on January 07, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
Hi

Anybody know or have an reasonable explanation as to why the new 3 does not have adaptive cruise or Mazda Radar Cruise Control (MRCC) as an option.

It is in the US spec and it is on the UK 6 just not an option on the 3.

This is a killer feature that I so wanted and expected.

Anyone know if it may come in later to something?

We always seem to loose out in the UK!
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: keith h on January 08, 2014, 12:56:48 PM
Hi all, I went down last weekend to see the new 3 at Mazda Silverlink north shields.
They had 2 cars in, both top spec in Soul red metallic & Blue reflex mica.
I quite like the styling, boot space still good,but to me, I was let down by the dash and console.
It looked to be a throwback from the 70,s & 80,s as regards the controls for the a/c and heating system, chrome trim would be better in brushed aluminium. I was also surprised that all models have a single CD player that is right behind the gear change, however lots of drivers have their own music plugged into various ports,sat. nav and Multimedia system is operated from a rotary control by the handbrake lever. The HUD is personel choice really but could be distracting for some.
Emissions are down, all models have 6 speed gearboxes & trim levels are ok.
Not sure yet whether I would have one, but I am going to the "bash" at the dealers Thursday night so will have a good rake about then. Any members going?
regards Keith h
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: makkmartono on January 09, 2014, 07:32:41 AM
Hi

Anybody know or have an reasonable explanation as to why the new 3 does not have adaptive cruise or Mazda Radar Cruise Control (MRCC) as an option.

It is in the US spec and it is on the UK 6 just not an option on the 3.

This is a killer feature that I so wanted and expected.

Anyone know if it may come in later to something?

We always seem to loose out in the UK!

All the old Mazdas have better spec in Europe too. In the BL when at highest spec has lot more to offer. It us called GTA and is full of kit.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 09, 2014, 10:08:17 AM
My personal thoughts on the cruise control tend to look a little deeper than just being pure convenience.
 
If you compare the road systems in UK with those in central Europe and the USA, I'm sure you will agree that we have far fewer miles of Motorway, Autoroute, Autobahn or Turnpike whatever you want to call them.
Cruise control is perfect for that type of road, but when driving in UK I would think the percentage of Motorway mileage travelled per individual, compared to other types of road, is far lower than many other countries.  Cruise control is ineffective for the majority of UK journeys on our types of road and in fact is probably less fuel efficient by having to cut in and out all the time.

Consequently I believe that manufacturers research the type of driving conditions that their product will be experiencing in that particular market before deciding what options to incorporate.
For instance, I know that Volvo's have Heated seats, heated front screens, engine preheaters,even in some cases heated steering wheels, frequently offered as standard in the Nordic countries. Not much call for that sort of equipment if they sell the car, say in the African continent.

So to me it seems that they adapt the equipment levels to the individual countries (markets). Mazda have made that decision with this model. Yes the Mazda6 may well have this level of equipment, but it is targeting a different demographic to the 3.
 
Of course the other aspect of this equation is cost. Everyone wants to get as much "bang for the buck" as they can. This means they want the best possible spec at the cheapest price. The market will only support a successful product if it meets the criteria laid down by the buyer.  Compromises have to be made. Mazda want to sell as many of their cars as they can at a profit. If they add in all the goodies and pitch the cost too high as a consequence, it's just not going to sell.

Anybody any follow on thoughts from this ?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: FemGearHead on January 09, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
As for the mileage of roads and using cruise control here (in the States) vs. in the UK, this is my personal thought - rarely do I use CC in my car. Yes, it came standard on the car, however the only time I find myself using it is on a long road trip (5 hours or more) with roads that have very little curves/turns. The last time I can remember using cc was when I drove to Los Angeles several years ago. Even during that long boring drive thru California's central valley, I found myself becoming tired because my feet weren't really doing anything.

Of course, that is just me and I'm sure other drivers feel differently. It's nice to have CC, but I don't think I'd miss it.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: huwdavid on January 09, 2014, 01:22:11 PM
I agree with what is being said - however on the 6 MRCC and Safety Pack are both options - so in terms of selling cars and bang for buck - you get that if you want the base price and standard spec and if you want higher spec you pay for it. In terms of economies of scale, the technology exists and has been implemented in the range - so it can't be a massive deal to provide it as an option! I appreciate it is all down to pricing and targeting markets and demographics - but really - is it that difficult to make it an option on a range that already has it in other countries! I'm not asking for something like a heated steering wheel that doesn't exist on the entire Mazda range full stop in any market!

Bottom line is for me, I am looking at the Golf now - so to some degree this will impact on sales - in a negative way - and whilst I appreciate one sale is nothing in the grand scheme - I am prepared to pay for it if they would just provide the option in the UK!

Plus I should add - all UK reviews that were put out prior to official launch (I know not UK spec etc etc) suggest it has MRCC - so a little misleading and got my hopes up in the first place hence why I double-ly annoyed!

OK - rant over now - off to test drive the Golf!
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 09, 2014, 02:16:04 PM
I totally understand your point of view. However there is just one little fly in the ointment. 

Would you be prepared to accept a long delivery time in order to have your desired options fitted.  I would imagine that  MRCC & Cruise control would be factory installed options, i.e not able to be retro fitted by UK dealers. So you would have to wait for a specific chassis to be built in Japan and then shipped.

In these days of almost instant delivery of items; click & collect, internet order & courier delivery, perhaps the question is, how long is too long?
Would the car buying public be prepared to wait until their individually built car is made and delivered. I would think not, as it has now become a national trait to be impatient and want your new (insert product here) immediately.

One of the biggest self created obstacles that Mazda has, is the fact that each continent has it's own separate company.  Mazda UK have no access to stock from Mazda Europe and vice versa.  Overcome that barrier then you would be able to obtain a European spec car in UK.
Just how the commercial business plan would work, is another matter.

Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Jano on January 15, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
Had an extended test drive in a 2.0 hatch Sport Nav last Friday, and I was very impressed. Road noise was far less noticeable than in my 3 (which admittedly is getting a bit rattly at almost 9 years old), and although I didn't really play around with the entertainment system too much it certainly wasn't distracting. Driving position was much better, as was the steering wheel and dash - I thought the cabin, at least in the front, was much improved over the old model. The drive itself was very good, engine was nice and responsive, clutch and gearbox was lovely. Dealer seems to think the SE-L Nav will be the big seller as it has a softer ride on the 16" wheels than the Sport Nav, and your not really losing out on spec, I think the only difference is optional leather seats and the Bose sound system again, with a Panasonic system in the SE and SE-L versions.

Unfortunately the dealer refused point blank to offer anything off list price, other than £500 for being a Mazda owner, and offering me next to nothing for part ex on my 3. I have a few other cars to test before I make a decision on a change, but it seems like they are selling well already and there is a lot of interest in them.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: misar on January 15, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
Overcome that barrier then you would be able to obtain a European spec car in UK.

Why would anyone in the UK want to buy a left hand drive Mazda built for (mainland) Europe unless they were about to move to (mainland) Europe?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 15, 2014, 02:53:15 PM
Overcome that barrier then you would be able to obtain a European spec car in UK.

Why would anyone in the UK want to buy a left hand drive Mazda built for (mainland) Europe unless they were about to move to (mainland) Europe?


HM Forces do it a lot.  I did. Then keep the car for 3 or so years whatever the length of your tour.  Before you are due to come home order a new model with European spec, at duty free prices, but specify RHD.

But I get your point.  What I was endeavouring to say was, if Mazda restructured then it wouldn't be a barrier to having EU spec components and accessories on a UK car.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: MELennium on January 15, 2014, 06:50:13 PM
from jano:
Dealer seems to think the SE-L Nav will be the big seller as it has a softer ride on the 16" wheels than the Sport Nav, and your not really losing out on spec, I think the only difference is optional leather seats and the Bose sound system again, with a Panasonic system in the SE and SE-L versions.


There is quite a lot more on the SPORT NAV to the SE-L NAV as below:

1. Front fog lights with chrome surround, the SE-L NAV has no chrome surround.
2. Adaptive front headlights.
3. Parking sensor front and rear with audio and visual, the SE-L NAV has only rear sensors and audio only.
4. 18" wheels.
5. Optional leather seats.
6. Bose audio system with 9 speakers.
7. Smart remote keyless entry.
8. Dashboard decoration is silver, the SE-L NAV has piano black.
9. Active driving display.
10. Digital speedometer, the SE-L NAV has a analogue speedometer.
11. Analogue tach, the SE-L NAV has a graph tach.
12. Safety pack option.

I'm not saying they are any better, just pointing out the difference in spec.

Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Jano on January 16, 2014, 11:11:50 AM
Didn't realise there was that much in it, interesting - thanks. Still hoping I can get them to agree to a deal of some sort at one of my local dealers, I don't suppose anyone knows why the Soul Red is £110 more expensive than the other metallic paints?.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: MELennium on January 16, 2014, 07:29:39 PM
The soul red is 3 layers consisting of a base coat containing aluminium flake, a coloured clear coat and clear top coat.
It is also £130 more expensive at £660 compared to £530 for the other metallic paints.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: ROBCALLY on January 16, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
Just ordered a  new 3 Hatchback 2.0 120 ps, petrol, manual Sport Nav with the safety pack in Aluminium  Metallic (38P) and traded in my 3 1.6 Sport Nav 2009 reg in the same colour.
Had a test drive in the new 3 and WOW :D I loved it so I ordered one and can't wait but I have to wait till March 26th to get it as they are out of stock of that model.
I think I had a good trade in deal, £6400 for mine, £500 Mazda loyalty bonus, full tank petrol and a set of premium mats for it and 0% finance on 50% of the cost.
The only reason I went for the same colour as before as the colours the offer are limited.
If anybody out there has had one please let us have your opinions.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: MELennium on January 16, 2014, 09:06:54 PM
I ordered my 2014 Mazda 3 hatchback Sport Nav 2.0L with the safety pack in Soul Red on December 30th and been told to expect delivery of it on Saturday 25th January. ;D
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Nyami on January 16, 2014, 10:18:29 PM
Hopefully picking up a 2014 Diesel Sport Nav tomorrow, my existing deal was due to run out soon and I got a good deal on the new 3, I had been looking at alternative manufactures but the standard kit with the Mazda is good in comparison to some. There are a few things "missing" from the new model, 6 disk changer and the heated windscreen mainly, but hopefully it will be as good or better than my trusty 3 it replaces.. will report back as soon as possible!

Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Judy on January 20, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
We had an initial look at the new Mazda 3 at the weekend, and we now have a test drive (on the SPORT-NAV) booked for next weekend.

What did surprise me looking through the specs is the absence of DAB Radio as even an option on the new models...

Has anyone heard why this isn't an option? It seems like a major omission on what is otherwise a nicely spec'd car.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: koolkatz on January 28, 2014, 01:14:39 PM
Has anyone driven both the new Mazda 3 Sport on 18" wheels and an SE (L) on 16's? I would be interested to know how different the ride was. What are people views of the ride quality on 18's?

Having looked at all of the competition, Germans included, the new 3 ticks more boxes for me than anything else. However, my dilemma is that I like the Sport spec but am not sure about the ride. I have test driven a Sport but in the relatively short drive I had, I could not make up my mind about the ride quality. I am however going to try the car for a much longer period shortly and hopefully (if they have one available) try a lesser spec car as well. After driving a car with not a lot of road surface tolerance for the past three years, I am looking for something a bit more comfortable this time round

If the Sport has a much worse ride than the SE-L, I will go the SE-L route and save myself some money. It is a pity that the SE-L does not get leather though as this is something I wanted, as is the Bose sound system come to that. In fact, a Sport on 16's might be ideal!

On the subject of a lack of DAB radio, I can only think that with the smartphone connectivity the car offers, they expect you will listen to digital radio via this route.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: NickH on January 29, 2014, 09:36:24 AM
Popped in to my local Mazda dealer last friday having got a leaflet through the door (normally just bin them!)- no intention to buy.
Had a good look around and loved it. Sales guy offered a test drive.  Loved it.  Left the dealer having p/e my 08 model and ordered the Sports Nav 165ps in Black with the safety pack.  Was available in a couple of weeks but decided to wait for the 14 plate.  CANNOT WAIT!
 ;D
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: sk4tec on January 31, 2014, 07:18:16 PM
Great looking car  :)
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Judy on February 03, 2014, 08:03:38 PM
On the subject of a lack of DAB radio, I can only think that with the smartphone connectivity the car offers, they expect you will listen to digital radio via this route.

Yes, we asked about the lack of DAB and that was the response they gave - great if you have unlimited data, but I still feel that is a very odd omission.

We also asked about what the "live traffic" on the SatNav required since we find the traffic updates (and re-routing) very useful on our existing TomTom. The brochure refers to needing a "compatible mobile device with data signal" but is completely lacking in information about what a "compatible" device might be.
We would have considered continuing to use the existing TomTom except that it looks like there isn't a "cigarette lighter" socket in a suitable location in the new Mazda 3 to do that!

After a long delay they got back to us and said that all that is needed is a phone capable of provding a wifi hotspot. So we have now ordered a SportNav with promised delivery "end of March".
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on February 03, 2014, 08:27:27 PM
Congrats on your purchase. Let us know how you get on.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 185sport on February 24, 2014, 10:19:53 AM
Generally quite positive review of the 2.0l petrol here: http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/car-tech/1305760/mazda-3-review-sport-nav-2-litre-165ps
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Lennie55 on February 27, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
Not completely gone on the front but definitely appreciate the rear
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lambada on March 30, 2014, 08:12:10 AM
Has anyone driven the 2.0 120 PS petrol model? My dealer hasn't got any available for a test drive yet and I'd like to know if it's any good. I'm particularly interested in the automatic.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: mydi on April 07, 2014, 06:44:57 PM
I have just taken delivery of the new Mazda3 and so far so good, road noise is not good though, maybe the tyres and i don't like the stop/start but you can switch that off, only thing i can't do is pair the phone in.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lambada on April 07, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
Thanks for your feedback. Is your car on 16 or 18 inch wheels? Which other cars did you test drive prior to choosing the Mazda? Any idea how the level of engine noise compares to a VAG 1.4 TSi engine? Good luck with the phone pairing.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Neil P on April 08, 2014, 01:52:02 PM
Does anyone know for sure if the 2014 3 has lost the heated front screen?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: MELennium on April 08, 2014, 08:05:07 PM
The 2014 Mazda 3 does not have a heated front screen.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Neil P on April 08, 2014, 10:34:07 PM
Guess I won't be getting one then  :(
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: NickH on April 10, 2014, 08:25:46 AM
Had the car for about 6 weeks now and loving it.  Miles apart from my 08 Mazda 3 and I loved that!
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: ROBCALLY on April 10, 2014, 06:21:13 PM
Hi NickH when you are on FM radio does your screen update with the artist and song when

the song changes or does it stop on the first song display when switched on.

Regards

Robcally

Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: mydi on April 10, 2014, 11:42:03 PM
Does anyone know for sure if the 2014 3 has lost the heated front screen?
Test drove a Kia Ceed, very nice car but got a better price on my trade in from Mazda, better looking too, its on 18 inch wheels and sorry don't know about noise levels other than this is noisey on the road, maybe Dunlop tyres or the 18 inch wheels, just done 300 miles so can't judge it really yet, also drove a new Focus but didn't like that the steering wheel was in my face, very uncomfortable.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: koolkatz on April 16, 2014, 06:45:58 PM
Just thought I would chuck in my views on the car. Had a 120 Sport Nav for about a month now and have done about 1800 miles. Very comfortable for long distances (went for leather) and the cockpit is a nice place to be. I don't find the ride on 18's too bad, certainly a lot better than my previous 2 on 16's and not much worse than the test drive car which was on 16's. Fuel consumption seems to be around the mid 40's on average and high 40's on a long run. Styling is spot on and there are very few around at the moment so that's a bonus. The command system works a treat as does the audio although I haven't paired up to a phone yet. The only thing is, iPod tracks are a bit slow to load when forwarding through tracks on the steering wheel/screen, USB sticks are fine though.

Generally everything works well, the performance and handling are fine for what I want and so far I am really happy with the car. I should add that I had no particular budget in mind when I was looking for a new car and I was happy to pay for any car in this segment that impressed me. The fact that I plumped for the 3 says a lot about the car I think, for me it ticked all the right boxes and probably saved me a few bob as well. Oh, and my Grandson likes it more that his Dad's new 520d M Sport  :) :) :)
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lambada on April 16, 2014, 07:05:05 PM
Thanks for your mini review koolkatz. Ill ask you a couple of questions if you don't mind....

1. Is yours a manual or automatic?
2. Some reviewers have commented that the engine needs to be revved hard to perform, leading to intrusive noise. Would you agree? Any idea how the noise levels compare to VAG's 1.4 TSi engine?
3. Which other cars did you test drive before you picked the 3?

Unfortunately my dealer doesn't have the car available for a test drive so I can't try it before ordering.

Thanks!
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: koolkatz on April 16, 2014, 09:00:47 PM
Hi Lambada. I think you may have asked me a similar question on Honest John, am I correct? No problem, happy to pass on my experiences. Mine is a manual, nothing against auto's, just prefer manuals. On the performance vs revs issue, the reviewers may well be right but I haven't driven any of the smaller turbos. I believe they do have better low down torque so better in gear performance. Yes, the Mazda does need a bit more revving and gear changing to access the full performance, however, this doesn't really bother me and there is enough low down torque for normal business. If I have to drop a couple of gears to overtake something then so be it.

As I think I said on the HJ site, I tend to drive a selection of hire cars for work so have some sort of yardstick. People have different priorities when buying cars and mine are probably different to the norm. The first thing I want is good styling outside and inside. I dislike the silver games console type consoles favoured by some manufacturers with a passion. The Mazda dash is simple and functional. Styling is obviously subjective but there are many designs out there that just seem a bit bland and underwhelming, the Mazda is a bold design and quite imposing. Then there is my last priority and that is that the car will be relatively uncommon on the roads. With Ford, Vauxhall and VAG outselling Mazda by something like 20:1, that is likely to be the case.

I know this doesn't really help you decide whether to buy the Mazda or not. All I can say is that I tend not to read too many reviews because they are based on decisions of the head not the heart and I tend to buy more with the heart. For many it would not be their perfect car, however, for me there is no better overall package out there. 
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lambada on April 16, 2014, 11:29:24 PM
Yes, koolkatz....I did ask similar questions on the HJ site. Must admit I'm somewhat desperate for first hand information so thanks for sharing your experience with the car. Not easy to find info about it because the 120 PS version isn't sold in any other English speaking countries it seems.

I agree with you regarding the head vs heart matter. My head is telling me to go with the Golf and my heart wants the Mazda. The Mazda looks far better in my opinion and I can get it better equipped than the Golf but I won't know how it performs until I buy it. Hopefully I'll find someone who tried both cars so I can see what they think. Thanks again.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: koolkatz on April 17, 2014, 09:10:42 AM
Hi Lambada. I can understand the dilemma you are in, am I right in saying that it is mainly the performance you are concerned about? Coming into work this morning, I thought I would pay a bit more attention to the performance so that I could give you a bit more feedback. I think it has to be said that 120PS in this size of car is never going to tear your face off. However, I think it has better performance than power figures alone would suggest, after all it does have a sub 9 second 0-60 time which is pretty impressive anyway. However, as many have said, this performance is only accessible at higher revs. The performance reminds me a bit of a Cavalier SRI 130 I had many moons ago although that needed even more revs to get the best out of it from what I remember.

Some other cars may have more torque low down but the Mazda has adequate torque for relaxed driving and on my A and B road 10 mile commute, I am never wanting for more, most of the journey being done in 4th and 5th gears. Peak torque is at 4000rpm according to the literature but the car starts coming to life at around 2500rpm. The performance is certainly there if you need it.

I suppose it comes down to whether you buy into the new way of doing things with smaller low revving turbocharged engines or the Mazda way which is the more conventional, larger normally aspirated engine route which just needs a few more revs to get the best out of them. I would really like to be able to say that the Mazda was a better car than the Golf for your needs but obviously that's not possible. All I can do is give you as much info about the Mazda as possible and hope it helps you. If you need any more info, I'm happy to provide it if I can.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on April 17, 2014, 09:53:22 AM
Koolkatz. Could you please update your vehicle details in your profile.  Thanks.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lambada on April 17, 2014, 02:27:43 PM
Koolkatz, thanks again for the valuable information you're giving me.

I'm sure the Mazda 120 PS engine performs well if revved enough. I am more concerned about the noise that revving the engine will cause. My 1997 Civic VTi goes like a rocket when revved (158 BHP @ 7600 RPM & 151 Nm @ 7000 RPM!) but it's not exactly quiet.

I've never owned a turbo engined car but must admit I quite like the Seat Leon 1.4 TSi which I test drove recently. Although I did notice some turbo lag.

Anyway, if you happen to ride in a 1.4 TSi powered car in the next few weeks tell me how it compares to yours :)
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Steve MPS on April 25, 2014, 12:10:30 AM
Don't know if anyone has seen this article in carmagazine (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Mazda-3-20-165PS-Sport-Nav-2014-CAR-review/) but if it's true then there will be no MPS version of the new Mazda 3

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Bad news: Mazda says it won’t build a GTI-rivalling hot ‘MPS’ version of the fine new 3. That means that this 163bhp-tune 2.0-litre model (notably free of forced induction) is the performance flagship.

A real shame and I believe a mistake.  A flagship model should be something to look up to and that spec won't do it.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: ajb231 on April 27, 2014, 10:40:04 AM
Since buying our 3 Sport 10 plate just over 4 years ago, I've been absent from the forum....but would like to acknowledge the info given when I was asking all the questions about the change in spec at that time.  So, I'm checking back in because we've just ordered a 2.0 120ps Sport Nav in Soul Red with leather seats...  Not sure of delivery date - I've been told it's "in transit", so could be a week or so yet.  We were going to part-ex our old 3 but now a family member wants to buy it privately from us and who could blame him...not even 15,500 miles on the clock and it's four year old!!  I'll be sad to see it go, but the new 3 is much better on road tax, insurance and fuel costs (even though we don't do much mileage, it's still a good selling point).  We did test drive a 2.0 demo car and it felt like I'd always been driving it... though I'm a bit concerned about the ride on new 18s on the Sport Nav, compared to the very comfortable 17s on our old 3...hope there's not much difference...
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: ajb231 on April 29, 2014, 09:49:14 PM
Since buying our 3 Sport 10 plate just over 4 years ago, I've been absent from the forum....but would like to acknowledge the info given when I was asking all the questions about the change in spec at that time.  So, I'm checking back in because we've just ordered a 2.0 120ps Sport Nav in Soul Red with leather seats...  Not sure of delivery date - I've been told it's "in transit", so could be a week or so yet.  We were going to part-ex our old 3 but now a family member wants to buy it privately from us and who could blame him...not even 15,500 miles on the clock and it's four year old!!  I'll be sad to see it go, but the new 3 is much better on road tax, insurance and fuel costs (even though we don't do much mileage, it's still a good selling point).  We did test drive a 2.0 demo car and it felt like I'd always been driving it... though I'm a bit concerned about the ride on new 18s on the Sport Nav, compared to the very comfortable 17s on our old 3...hope there's not much difference...

Spoke to the dealership on Monday and it turns out, there's no red 2.0 Sport Nav's with leather interior anywhere in this country and it's being shipped from Japan!!  We are to expect delivery somewhere around the end of May...ugh, wanted it now  ;)
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: UraniumSnake82 on May 19, 2014, 11:37:20 AM
Just ordered a 120ps Sport in Deep Crystal Blue. Can't wait for it to be delivered in one months time!
After owning a Mazda 3 from 2010 until last year where I had a short break in an RX8 R3, I am looking forward to getting back into something a bit softer and fuel economic.
Just wondering if anyone in here has had the airdam skirts fitted? They look nice on the white car but am yet to see on a darker paint colour.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: koolkatz on May 22, 2014, 04:32:41 PM
Don't know if anyone has seen this article in carmagazine (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Mazda-3-20-165PS-Sport-Nav-2014-CAR-review/) but if it's true then there will be no MPS version of the new Mazda 3

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Bad news: Mazda says it won’t build a GTI-rivalling hot ‘MPS’ version of the fine new 3. That means that this 163bhp-tune 2.0-litre model (notably free of forced induction) is the performance flagship.

A real shame and I believe a mistake.  A flagship model should be something to look up to and that spec won't do it.

I would imagine that for the number of MPS models they sell, it is not worth the tooling costs, even though these may seem minimal. It is probably cheaper in the long run to lose the few MPS sales to the likes of the Focus ST etc. They appear to have dropped the Mazda 2 1.5 Sport as well.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lambada on June 07, 2014, 01:57:35 PM
Do any UK-based 2014 Mazda3 saloon owners have the rust problem mentioned here?: http://mazda3revolution.com/forums/2014-mazda-3-skyactiv-appearance-interior/58489-rust.html

There's a picture indicating the exact location of the problematic spots on the 2nd page of the thread. The posters on that thread are all based in the USA/Canada it seems. Although that shouldn't make much of a difference because their cars are built at the same Japanese factory as the ones sold in the UK afaik.

Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on June 07, 2014, 08:04:50 PM
Rust  ?? ?? ?? Already ?? ??   :o :o
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: AG-Spike on June 28, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
I am new to the forum, but have had a 61 reg Mazda 3 TS2 for almost 3 years now. I have been tempted (managed to put it off for 6 months) by my dealership, and have gone and put a deposit down on a new 3 Sport Nav, due to arrive in a couple of weeks.
I have a few questions, that so far the web as not been helpful with, and before I ask my dealer, wondered if you lovely people could help me out :)
- I have enjoyed Thule wingbars on my 3 to carry my bikes, but I can't find out for sure if the new 3 has fixing points, but sure I have seen pics http://mazda-3.sgpetch.co.uk/pages/accessories/detail/model=515/category=ROOT-touring/accessory=Roof+Rack/id=15740 (http://mazda-3.sgpetch.co.uk/pages/accessories/detail/model=515/category=ROOT-touring/accessory=Roof+Rack/id=15740) showing roofbars that mount not into the door. If I had to go that way, going by Thule's website, I would need all new roof bar bits, except for the bike carriers, quite apart from the extra possible damage and looks.
- Does the new 3 have electronically folding wing mirrors? I use these quite a bit on my current 3, and I am even thinking of getting this done http://mazda-3.sgpetch.co.uk/pages/accessories/detail/model=515/category=ROOT-exterior/accessory=Auto+Folding+Mirror+Kit/id=15770 (http://mazda-3.sgpetch.co.uk/pages/accessories/detail/model=515/category=ROOT-exterior/accessory=Auto+Folding+Mirror+Kit/id=15770) as my mate's Mondeo does this, and would be great if my new 3 could.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: dtaylor928 on June 28, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
Hi,

I have a 3 2014 SportNav 2.2 Diesel… I know little about roof racks but there are tracks there for one and Mazda sell the fixings and rack so guess it is straight forward enough… http://www.mazda.co.uk/buying-owning/accessories/mazda3/2013-05/transport/BHR1V4701/ (http://www.mazda.co.uk/buying-owning/accessories/mazda3/2013-05/transport/BHR1V4701/)

As for the folding mirrors… I owned previous Mazda 3’s too and they operate the same as before… a manual switch to fold them… this time it is on the rotary joystick you use to adjust them rather than a specific button.  The auto feature to fold and unfold when you stop and start the car is an extra.  Here’s the link on Mazda’s site (without discount)… http://www.mazda.co.uk/buying-owning/accessories/mazda3/2013-05/comfort-utility/C850V7650/ (http://www.mazda.co.uk/buying-owning/accessories/mazda3/2013-05/comfort-utility/C850V7650/)... Not sure I could justify the extra cost as little inconvenience to do it by turning the switch.

Cheers,
David
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: AG-Spike on June 28, 2014, 04:20:18 PM
Thanks for the reply.
For the roof bars, seeing as all i should need to 'upgrade' my current roofbars for the new 3 is the right footpack, I can only assume that Thule have not got a set ready yet, so may hold on, otherwise I would be overpaying.
As for the wing mirrors, that is good news, and yes, I am not sure I can justify it yet anyway, maybe after a bit of overtime and if I feel the desire.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lem on June 29, 2014, 09:50:41 AM
Having crunched the number on the various hatchback out there, the 3 was looking strong - I'm looking for a fun to drive family car with leather, sat nav and under 120g Co2 (requirement from company even though I'm opting out of their scheme).

I've recently driven the 2.2D . The general feel of the car is great and the refinement is a pleasant surprise. Despite what reviews said I didn't find the motorway road noise that intrusive at all (although the demonstrator is an SE-L on smaller wheels rather than a Sport Nav). The engine is a peach.. torquey and swift and revs quite well - almost on par with the bmw units - and allied to a typically Mazda slick gearbox.

I think I may well sign on the dotted line..
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: dtaylor928 on June 29, 2014, 10:04:50 AM
Having owned the Mazda 3 2.2 Diesel SportNav for ten weeks now and travelled around 5K I am very happy with it; I am sure you will have no regrets.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: lem on July 27, 2014, 08:34:04 AM
Ordered :)  - 2.2 Sport Nav Titanium Flash and Leather.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Steve MPS on September 01, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
Don't know if anyone has seen this article in carmagazine (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Mazda-3-20-165PS-Sport-Nav-2014-CAR-review/) but if it's true then there will be no MPS version of the new Mazda 3

Quote
Bad news: Mazda says it won’t build a GTI-rivalling hot ‘MPS’ version of the fine new 3. That means that this 163bhp-tune 2.0-litre model (notably free of forced induction) is the performance flagship.

A real shame and I believe a mistake.  A flagship model should be something to look up to and that spec won't do it.

I would imagine that for the number of MPS models they sell, it is not worth the tooling costs, even though these may seem minimal. It is probably cheaper in the long run to lose the few MPS sales to the likes of the Focus ST etc. They appear to have dropped the Mazda 2 1.5 Sport as well.
This recent article in Automotive News gives hope:

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Mazda3: The Mazda3's next major change is a 2017 model year re-engineering that will give the sedan new sheet metal in the second half of 2016. The new metal will be underpinned by a revamped version of the car's existing Skyactiv platform.

The change is expected to coincide with the return of the Mazdaspeed3 high-performance version to the lineup. Under the hood of the go-fast Mazda3 will be a turbocharged 2.5-liter Skyactiv engine -- also appearing in the redesigned CX-9 launching that year -- that will produce more than 300 hp in the Mazdaspeed3. The usual Mazdaspeed exterior touches -- such as a unique fascia, body kit and bigger wheels with low-profile, high-performance tires -- are expected to differentiate the car from mainstream Mazda3 models.

Mazda also may equip the Mazdaspeed3 with all-wheel drive, making it a worthy competitor to the Subaru WRX STI and filling a void in the fast-compact segment created by the impending cancellation of the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20140825/OEM04/308259975/mazda-making-big-changes-fast
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: E.T. on December 28, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
I'm driving the 120PS 2.0 petrol with manual box SE-L Hatchback.  Mine is white BTW.

I've been very impressed, and as long as you stick the revs up to 4K it can shift reasonably well (bear in mind I'm used to a 1200cc motorbike).

consistently 45mpg with a lot of back road country driving - and not really hanging around.  On a long run I've had it at 47mpg (at that's cruising at 80 LSPs*




(http://www.4smileys.com/smileys/vehicle-smileys/smileycar75.gif)





*LSP = 'lymic swimming pools, which is a standard media measurement for stupid people. The other unit is DDBs (Double Decker Buses - used for every other measurement not covered by LSPs).    Of course, 80 LSPs is exactly equal to the legal speed limit of 70 mph, of course...er... of course.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on December 28, 2014, 09:11:15 PM
I've just started driving the 2014 3 2.2 Skyactive-D. Does anybody know what is included in the 'Auto folding mirror kit' accessory pack - http://www.mazda.co.uk/buying-owning/accessories/mazda3/2013-05/comfort-utility/C850V7650/ - - Is this just a dealer programmable option or is there actual hardware involved?

Also when is the MRCC fitted, should this be standard? it's not listed as included in the 'Safety Pack'
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: dtaylor928 on December 28, 2014, 10:39:35 PM
Hi,

I believe it automatically folds the mirrors when the doors lock... rather than turning the switch to fold them.  Not sure I could justify the additional expense over the little benefit it offers.  I would have thought that there would be some hardware involved as if it is just something they can programme then I am sure after spending £23K on the car they would do this for nothing if you wanted it active.

Hope you are enjoying the car; mine is in for its first service Tuesday.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on December 30, 2014, 09:53:27 PM
Thanks dtaylor928, I’m enjoying it but not loving it yet. Setup/Function niggles I’m hoping - I cannot get the TA announcements form the radio yet!

Did/have you activated the 60 trial of ‘connected services’, if so any good?


Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: dtaylor928 on December 31, 2014, 08:49:05 AM
Hi,

I had a huge amount of problems with the MZD-Connect system when I first bought the car in April... not just with the satnav, but a whole host of features... it was very unstable.  That was with version 29.  I took it back twice to have it updated in the hope of fixing the issues and version 31 was the most stable albeit still with issues.  Yesterday I had it upgraded to 33 which I am assuming you will have and so far so good but time will tell.

I honestly don't think I have tried the Traffic Alerts... I must give it a go and see if it works.

I did activate the 60 day trial of the Connect Services and have actually purchased a three year subcription to them since... I rarely keep a car three years but still much more cost effective after two than buying the one (https://mazda-eu.naviextras.com/shop/portal/newCatalog?view=item&salesPackageCode=100403 (https://mazda-eu.naviextras.com/shop/portal/newCatalog?view=item&salesPackageCode=100403)).

It is OK and you should certainly activate the trial.  Weather is a bit of a novelty, nothing special.  Local Search is quite good but rarely used.  Fuel Prices is alright but depends really on how often you fill up in different places as you tend to know which garages are usually the best on price in areas you are familiar with.  Being a diesel, V31 would never remember the Normal Diesel setting when searching for prices... not sure about V33... will check over the next few days.  I guess the main function is Live Traffic... never quite sure whether to believe reroutes especially significant ones.  When I have been stuck in traffic more out of curiosity I have looked to see what the hold up is and it might say due to car fire for instance but also tell you the delay time.  Nothing really special and all part of the features I guess but figured around £60 for three years was not too bad.

I do like the car and felt very good to drive although was hit by a road sweeper mid November which took it off the road for a month... only had it back a couple of weeks and just does not feel the same.  I feel sure I am going to experience problems soon but time will tell.  I miss the heated front windscreen of the previous Mazda 3 I had and believe it is due to them breaking links with Ford who hold the patent for it.

The accident has stopped me 'loving' the car but hopefully all will be well again in the not too distant future.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,
David
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on January 01, 2015, 11:09:05 PM
Hi David, {not sure if this is the right place to post this, Admin please relocate if inappropriate}

Thanks for the response – and sory to read the problems with the road sweeper, my last car was high spec’d French, which had plenty of functions and toys as standard. My Thoughts are:

Auto-folding wing mirrors – on the last car these provided visual confirmation that the vehicle had been locked and secured (together with the horn beeps), I would really like this automatic option on the Mazda.  Stops dim-wits walking into the mirrors or the mirrors being kissed (by other drivers) wing-mirror to wing-mirror in a car park, if I forget to fold them in. I have a slight problem where I work, where some of our car park users tend to park by braille! – I’d really like to think this is configurable by the dealers (FOC would be good!), cannot be much to it if the accessory is circa £66.00

I note you are running v33 of the software, same as mine, just seems to feel a bit buggy but I cannot put my finger on why at present.

Niggles/Issues:
Radio
Traffic Announcements – yet to receive any, despite TA set to ‘on’ in Radio settings

Inbuilt Sat Nav
Delivered with out of date maps, I’ve updated these through the toolbox, but feel this should have been checked as part of the pre-delivery inspection.

Speed camera database seems to know the fixed locations but does not seem to include the known mobile locations. (I subscribe to an online camera database, and I’m yet to work out if this can be loaded on the HERE maps/services that Mazda seem to be using)

Traffic (ignoring the connected services for a minute) –is this supposed to pick up the traffic alerts from the radio (free of charge) and re-route same as a Tom-Tom/Garmin type unit?

Not sure what version of the Owner’s Manual you have, mine is 8DS2, I have also download the
PDF version 8DY7, We want to set the auto door locking function (dealer advised that the Mazda does not do that) it is clearly defined in the manual P 3-18/3-19, I have no idea what the manual is talking about but I cannot work out how to set the function, or other functions mentioned in the manual.

I’m disappointed in:
1.   Me –  Brochure and price list (1 October 2014) are not clear in what is and what is not included in the specs and options, hence I assumed that as items were not defined as ‘an option’ they would be included. The safety pack seems to include additional items not defined in the brochure/price list (i.e MRCC and DRSS) – I should have asked more questions but...
2.   Sales team  - As above, lack of knowledge as to what is and what is not included, else I might have stretched the extra £700 for the safety pack!
3.   Documentation. The foot note on almost every page of the Owner’s Manual should read ‘available in other specs, but not yours, despite you having a top of range unit’ and not the printed ‘* Some Models’, appreciate this is a generic manual but...

Other points:
Will look at activating the 60 day trial of connected services over the weekend, There is a reply from Judy #41 on this thread, any idea how much data connected services use (if any)?

Not sure I trust the walk away locking as yet, minimum setting of 30 seconds seems a long time!

Would like to ensure that the Smart City Braking actually works, but don’t want to risk it in case it’s another ‘* Some Models but not yours’ option

Parking sensors – when they say stop they really mean stop, with the French car I still had a good 6 inches or so of space.

Lights – What do the options under Auto Headlight On mean - High, Med. High, Medium, Med.low and Low?

I posted in the Accident category re the cost that the dealers want for a space saver spare, shocking!

Starting to like it a bit more, might be better once it's over 600 miles or so and I feel the urge to let it stretch its legs a little.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 02, 2015, 12:43:29 AM
Good to see your appraisal gknight9 very comprehensive. 
Just one small point where I feel you may be a little naive
"Brochure and price list (1 October 2014) are not clear in what is and what is not included in the specs and options, hence I assumed that as items were not defined as ‘an option’ they would be included."

I have invariably found that if an item is an "option", then it means it does not come as standard equipment.    Not the other way round. Even on the top line models, it does not mean that everything is already fitted by default just because it is not designated as an option.. 

It is well known that Mazda regularly change the spec on models with very little notice, even between years. There are cases on this forum where two members have identical cars bought at the same time, but they have different specs.
By not specifying exact specs in the handbook/brochures, they leave their options open to allow for such changes, possibly to cater for supply problems and unforeseen circumstances. This also covers your other point (2)  about the lack of knowledge from the sales team. I'm sure that they are just as frustrated as you, when they get their next supply of new cars and find they are different to what they already have in the showroom.

A sage piece of advice to new buyers is to ask as many questions as you can possibly think of. Theses cars are a massive investment, it pays to be very inquisitive.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: E.T. on January 02, 2015, 06:02:13 PM

Radio
Traffic Announcements – yet to receive any, despite TA set to ‘on’ in Radio settings

Be greatful because you can't turn them off again afterwards.  My cars been back six times for upgrades and its still not right.  Due for its one year service in Jan, so I'll get the latest update to software then.  I'm not holding my breath TBH.  I've just learnt to live without switching it on in the first place.

The other thing that really bugs me is, if I come home with an MP3 playing, then pause it. When I come back to the car the next day at 5am in the morning, turn the ignition on - I wake up all the neighbours! On comes the music.  Its a PITA.


Inbuilt Sat Nav


£700 for a satnav that costs £25 on my smart phone.  I didn't bother.  Its also the advantage of being able to sit at my desk, dining table before I go and look at the route, rather than fiddling around in a cold car first thing in the morning.  I can see the convenience, but a 5" screen smartphone props up just in front of the gear stick, so easy to see and get to without being in yer face (particularly whilst night driving)



Would like to ensure that the Smart City Braking actually works, but don’t want to risk it in case it’s another ‘* Some Models but not yours’ option

I swung onto my short drive toward our garage door and it decided it would apply the brakes for me. Yet another crap safety system that overides driver judgement. I've managed to drive for the last 35 years without hitting anything...until this car, see below

Parking sensors – when they say stop they really mean stop, with the French car I still had a good 6 inches or so of space.

I've had numerous cars with sensors and in these days of small windows and high flanks I've come to rely on them...too much.

In the first week I reversed, very slowly and just nudged another parked car. beep-----------beep, beep beep beeeeeeeeeep crunch...all in about 6".  Dire.

I thought I was used to it but caught the corner of a brick wall the other day.   Bear in mind I've never hit a thing front or backwards in 35 years (including big sprinter vans and big cars like a Lexus and BMW etc that I've had.  These really are very very poor.  I've had them checked and the dealer told me they work properly.  I've given up even relying on them now.  Utter crap.

Lights – What do the options under Auto Headlight On mean - High, Med. High, Medium, Med.low and Low?

That's the ambient light level before they come on automatically.  I've just left mine on high, as I prefer to have lights on in low sun, wizzing through tunnels etc, as well as pitch blackness.


Starting to like it a bit more, might be better once it's over 600 miles or so and I feel the urge to let it stretch its legs a little.

Those are the only niggles I have.   In terms of actual driving, handling, brakes, seat comfort etc it is an extremely good car - one of the best for the money,  Sure my BMW was quicker, but the ride was quite harsh on that.  But the seats are more comfortable on the Mazda (for me) the driving position is really good for long drives (up to 400 miles a day)

Slick gear box, and if you use the engine (petrol) in its power band, the car is pretty good fun on the back B roads too.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: dtaylor928 on January 02, 2015, 07:46:34 PM
Hi,

Will be interesting to know how you get on with your dealer re the wing mirrors.  I guess it would have been an easy bargaining tool when negotiating the price.

I’m still getting used to 33, whilst it not being very different from 31, some of the bugs have been removed.  I keep forgetting to check some of the features though too.  So far it has remained stable though with no reboots.  Funny when I asked them to upgrade it when I took it in for its service… they did not want to do it and said it was not normal process to do this free of charge unless there is a problems with it... !  They had a list of issues which it had to be for them to do the upgrade… would have loved to have seen the list… it was long.

I did remember to try Traffic Annoucements… it works fine.  I do remember trying it in the past now too… it came up with two announcements within a few minutes which was just annoying to me.  When you set it to On in the radio… TA is then in red.  This is not linked to the sat nav at all or the connected services.  It is just when you listen to FM radio stations that broadcast the alerts which interrupt your current station with the alert from the other... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_announcement_(radio_data_systems) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_announcement_(radio_data_systems)).  When an alert comes up you can choose an option to turn this off… this only turns the current alert off… you need to go back to the radio and click the TA again to turn it off.

It is not good that they supplied the car without up to date maps… mine was the same.  Map updates are supposed to be issued every six months but know they are not.  I updated my maps before I took it in for its service but have thought about it again now since the OS update but doubt it will have changed.

Not sure about third party camera POI’s in the satnav.  I find it has been reasonably accurate with the camera locations but think they are just part of the static maps so the mobile ones may not be recorded accurately.

Unsure of the version of the manual I have in the car without checking but I know what you mean… I have a downloaded copy of 8DG1 I took not long after I purchased the car.  It does cover features that are in some models and not others… many of which are not available in Europe.  Before buying the car I looked at the spec but then read reviews in America and Australia… some have reversing cameras, bigger engines than we have, spare wheels as standard, moonroofs (Sun roofs !), radar cruise control etc.  Not impressed how we don’t get some of those here, not even as an option.  If you look a few pages earlier in the manual… in mine it is on page 3-16 you will see there is an extra button on the drivers side… we have one button that can lock all the windows.  On that diagram they have two buttons there… the other allows them to lock all the doors.  I think the steps it talks about to set up the automatic locking all relate to that extra switch that you need to hold down.  I remember reading that too ages ago and then going out to try it… only to find that I didn’t have the switch !

I think the car was pretty much as I expected it to be… I was lucky enough to be part of the launch event at Silverstone driving them round the track before they were even released here.  I had read up on them in detail too and knew the spec that was available here… I feel I got all that was expected but did have a good look and play with them over that day.  I did enquire about the safety pack and was tempted but as it was a factory fitted option did not want to wait the extra time… think it may have been 6+ weeks.

The sales team at my dealer were not very clued up either… I think I knew more about the features than they did !  He was trying to tell me it had certain features that I knew it didn’t… auto dimming of full beam… that is only available as part of the safety pack which I pointed out !

I replied to someone else re the data usage on another thread somewhere a long time ago as someone had said something ridiculous that it used 1MB per minute !  I have driven some long journeys and my extra data usage has been minimal.  When you initially connect it downloads all the incidents it is aware of… typically 3-4 thousand on a week day but then updates them as and when they change.  It is only text it is downloading so nothing huge.  I would have preferred it if the connection was built in though rather than having to start a hot spot on your phone for it to connect to but I have an app that quickly does this so no big deal and as I have said… the data usage is not noticeable.  When you have connected settings then it will advise if there is a hold up ahead and you can set it to automatically reroute too but prefer to look at the suggested route myself.

I do use the walk away locking and have tried it returning without my key… as well as someone else trying it.  Without reading up I didn’t think it was 30 seconds though… well… I know it isn’t… I can just walk out of range and the doors will lock, the beep will sound and the indicators flash letting you know it has locked.  I would assume the mirrors would fold in too with the extra feature.  I am happy with that functionality.

Smart City Break does work on our model but never tried it in my car.  It only works if there is no driver input i.e. you do not have your foot on any of the pedals and travelling less than 20mph.  Therefore the chances of it helping much is limited.  When I did the test drives at Silverstone that was one of the features they were having you try… heading towards a picture of a mazda on paper with your feet off the pedals less than 20mph and the car breaking automatically and stalling.

I don’t use the Hill Start Assist either but have tried it… it works but something I would never want to get used to !

The last segment on the parking sensor (screen) means you still have a foot to go.  I think it says that in the manual and have tested that too.  Just looked in the downloaded one I have and that must be an American one as it has the reversing camera only in that !

The auto headlight is just to change the sensitivity before the lights come on.  I have mine set to medium high which I find is best… sometimes they were not coming on when I would have expected them to come on.

Not impressed with not having the spare wheel either… it comes with a spare in other countries !  I read somewhere that it is not only cost but also to do with weight… by not having the spare they just get under a certain weight that EU regulations measure and then allow us to pay road tax of just £20 a year… with the spare it would cost more because more weight equals higher emissions but it has to be so marginal.

Since my accident I have had the tyre pressure warning light come on a couple of times too… the pressures were fine.  I queried it with the dealer when I had it serviced and they said it is not unusual when the temperature is below freezing as it effects the sensors… not had it come on since but will see how it goes.  I feel I have a slight vibration too since the accident and they just balanced the front wheels which made no difference.  Becoming less impressed with my dealer the more contact I have… You would think they would appreciate a sale of £23K being grateful for the custom !  Be careful with the first service costs too.  My dealer quoted me £180… shopped around and had another for circa £200 and another for £151 including courtesy car.  My dealer then matched the £151 !  Apparently the second service costs over £300 !

I do like the car… being a new model then I guess teething problems are to be expected especially with the technology side.  With the MZD-Connect system being introduced to the other models now including the Mazda MX-5, Mazda 2, 6 and the new Mazda CX-3 then I am sure it will become much more stable soon.  Just not sure if mine will ever be the same again since the accident though.

Let me know how you get on.

Kind regards,
David
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on January 22, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
1 month in and I’m experiencing a number of issues with the MZD-Connect system. I’m assured that my vehicle has the latest version of software, hence the dealer has raised a support ticket with Mazda, and I’m waiting for feedback.

Only issue to be ‘resolved’ so far is to do with Traffic Announcements from the radio.

Traffic Announcements (TA) set to ‘on’ in Radio settings seems to mean no Traffic Announcements (i.e TA is off!), TA set to ‘off’
means TA is on and I get traffic announcements!

Does anybody know the name of the software configuration/Diagnostic tools used by Mazda Dealers?

Thanks
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: dtaylor928 on January 22, 2015, 09:28:31 PM
Hi,

Sorry to hear of your problems with the MZD-Connect system... you should have seen what it was like previously !  33 has been stable for me but has also presented its own problems which were not there is previous releases... such as being able to tab left through the favourite radio stations but not right ! :o/

When I tried traffic alerts it really did work fine but did not keep it on as too many too often.  That does sound like a hardware issue to me as surely the same OS version should be consistent.  Hope you get that fixed... if a new version is available you'll have to let me know.

No idea of the diagnostic equipment they use; sorry.

One thing you mentioned on a previous message was the walk away 30 second locking.  It played at the back of my mind as know mine locks as soon as I walk out of range which is about a metre.  I looked through all my settings with being upgraded to v33 and the 30 seconds locking (can not remember what it is called now) refers to unlocking your car and then it self locks again if you do not open a door i.e. if you press the button on the door but do not walk away; or if you press the button on the key fob.

Anyway, will be good to hear how you get on.  Hope you like the car.  Mechanically I think it is good and drives well... just software that is the main problem that you can experience with new model of cars.  With the MZD-Connect being fitted on all the new Mazda's then it can only be good news having many more users.

Kind regards,
David
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: yarb on January 23, 2015, 12:37:48 PM
Have mine set to autolock when walking away after driving or opening a door happens about 5 seconds once the key is out of range of the door or boot, can be a bit of a pain  will lock the car when I fill up and usually the other half is in there so the alarm goes off so I have to remember to leave the door ajar so it don't lock
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 23, 2015, 02:25:50 PM
Have mine set to autolock when walking away after driving or opening a door happens about 5 seconds once the key is out of range of the door or boot, can be a bit of a pain  will lock the car when I fill up and usually the other half is in there so the alarm goes off so I have to remember to leave the door ajar so it don't lock

Taking a stab in the dark here. Does your key fob not have a button to disable the internal movement sensor ?  My 2004 model has this function and I would be surprised if a car 10 years younger did not have it.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: dtaylor928 on January 23, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
Hi,

Yes... the key fob does have this function... you can get so used to not using the key though that it is hard to break the habbit or even give it a thought when filling up or just nipping into a shop.

I like the feature though... just something to bear in mind when you have someone with you and leaving the car for a moment.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on January 29, 2015, 08:23:00 PM
Hi All,

Door locking has been worked out, however my view on the whole MZD-Connect system so far is it is poor.

TA has to be off to be on.

If there is a traffic announcement when the radio is on then you can cancel it, as long as you do it almost straight away. If not, and you want to cancel the announcement half way through, having heard any reports for the area you might be interested in and want to skip the rest, then there is no easy way to do this unless you go into radio settings and reselect the radio station you were listening too or select a new station.

Cancelling a TA announcement while listening to the radio does not disable them, so if there are more TA’s further in your drive then you get to hear them (all good so far!).

Cancelling a TA announcement while listening to a non-radio source i.e. CD/USB etc. seems to kill TA announcements for the rest of the drive (why?)

There appears to be no easy way to adjust the TA announcement volume separate to the audio volume, you have to adjust TA announcement volume whilst there is a TA is in progress.

Hate the way the sat-nav cuts out the audio on the right hand side of the car when it wants to announce something, I find it distracting and unclear. (never really noticed this in my previous cars while listening to radio/music and using non-intergrated Garmins or TomToms)
 
My tablet screen freezes or the commander ‘knob’ and the buttons stop working until the car is rebooted.

I’m told my car has the new MZD unit (whatever that means) and I’m running the latest software, hence the problem has been reported to Mazda (who I have now chased for an update).

I'm trying to determine if Mazda obtained the TMC license for the installed sat-nav’s (would explain why TMC does not appear to work if they did not obtain the licenses).

The Connected services (tethered wi-fi) are only OK, and I’d like to find a way to load my own POI’s etc. as, for example, the ‘known’ speed camera locations are very out of date, missing or wrong.

Loving the drive experience, but these things are not cheap, so the total owner experience is leaving a lot to be desired at present.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Juderic on February 12, 2015, 04:25:39 PM
Now on our 14th Mazda 15  when wife gets cx3 had my 2015  soul red Mazda 3 2.0 sel nav about 3 wks absolutely love it only 2 negatives view when reversing total guess work hoped I might get better than 38 mpg might change when run in
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on February 12, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
Welcome to the forum. That's a lot of Mazda's.   What have you had ?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Juderic on February 12, 2015, 05:40:35 PM
Me 626/6/3 all petrol, mazda 2 petrol mazda 2 diesel 2 venture 2 venture mk 2 new Mazda 3
Wife 2x premacys 1x 3/3x mazda 2 inc old & new venture edition s she's waiting for cx3 June or July time
Only problem was Mazda 2 diesel with regen filling sump with diesel & clunk on steering
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on April 04, 2015, 06:04:42 PM
Hi All,

We have 2, very late 2014 M3 sport nav’s that are identical.  Both have had problems with the Infocentre’s rebooting. Both have been investigated by the dealers and both have been reported to Mazda. Both have finally had the Infocentre’s replaced, both are running the same versions of software; Os Version: 33.00.500, Music Database Version: 00.02.000 and Fail Safe Version 33.00.500.

Both are still rebooting. Anybody else had this issue with the infocentre’s rebooting? Having spoken to other Mazda dealers it’s a known problem, and that rebooting the units (by disconnecting the battery) seems to be the initial, but unsuccessful, first route in fault diagnosis, as directed by Mazda that the dealers take.

Our units are still rebooting, despite being replaced, but we now believe we may have an idea where the problem may be.

So, does your unit reboot? If so do you have any idea what may be causing your problems?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on April 15, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
Nobody else use a paired bluetooth mobile in ther M3's?
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 73henny on May 05, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
I picked up a pre-reg Sport Nav 2.2d with leather yesterday (Mrs car)
Generally quite pleased so far, but disappointed that it won't charge or connect via USB to my iPhone 6? Any thoughts? Website says it should work - it better as the Skoda I traded in for it worked perfectly.

Bit worried its an old software version I have?

Thanks
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on July 21, 2015, 08:13:36 PM
Update: After all the problems experienced with the Connect system freezing, rebooting, tethering problems, traffic not able to work due to tethering problems (despite paying for the connected services!),  and a verging on dangerous i-stop system, I had a little word with Mazda due to the perceived lack of attention from my dealer.

Mazda had previously agreed to a warranty replacement of the CMU system.

Mazda advised that the car was to be taken into the dealer again. The dealer tested the car (again) and was unable to replicate the problems, they wanted to hold on to my car for a week and put some miles on it to identify the problems. This was politely declined; I can ‘test’ and agreed to document what was happening in the car at the time.  After more reboots, supplying fault reports and moaning, Mazda then agreed to another CMU replacement with the latest firmware installed.

Car was taken in and the new CMU was installed. On the test drive by the Mazda Technician after the CMU had been replaced the i-stop system failed on him, result! (I was so happy at this point!).

The fault was traced to a sensor, which was then replaced.

I now have a second CMU replacement, this one appears to be stable, I have a CMU with the latest version of the firmware and the system software has been updated to beyond the ‘current’ standard of version 33.

The unit is yet to freeze or reboot, tethering works all the time (so far), and for the first time since purchasing the vehicle it connected to my home Wi-Fi and I can update traffic info etc. before starting on my journey or before enabling tethering on my mobile.

The  i-stop functions too, it’s so different from what I had been experiencing, and does not just leave you stranded at a junction either. After 7 months of ownership, it finally feels like I have the car I was hoping to purchase. Love the zoom zoom, and now hope I get to enjoy the full ownership experience. Just a shame it took 7 months, and 4 months wasted subscription to the connect services.

Need to get the other one in and get the upgrades on that too.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on July 21, 2015, 08:30:45 PM
Handy resource to hold.


https://mega.co.nz/#!DcxFwKoa!IyRZoyXvbLLtp7Fplj07hTk_aF0pFIUM1YYuoK4Q2z4
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gorgerak on July 29, 2015, 09:43:01 PM
There's a lot of negativity in this thread about the 3's infotainment system and I kind of feel obliged to stand up in it's defence because I dont think its that bad.

We are so used to reliable and stable technology in this day and age. After all Apple and Microsoft have been doing it for decades. Whilst Google, Sony and Samsung have got so much money  that they can spend Mazda's annual income on QA alone. Phones, tablets, PC's and TV's are all very solid bits of kit (mostly) and rightly we expect them to be.

But infotainment systems in cars are relatively new tech and the vast majority of them are designed and built by software houses whose biggest aspirations still flail in comparism to google's lost pocket change. Software glitches are inevitable and it's gratifying to see Mazda are trying to address these with regular patches and are clearly still developing it. I think I read a version 33 earlier in this thread which shows progress at least. It would be all to easy for Mazda to not bother.

The other thing about the system as it stands is that it still only 2 1/2 years old at this point so its not really had time to address all niggles, improve performance, increase functionality, update sat nav maps completely.

I have experienced the the system freezing that others have mentioned and I agree that there is definitely room for improvement.  I also believe that Mazda should continue working hard to resolve the reported issues. I would just like to put into perspective that you cant expect a brand new piece of software to work out of the box.  All other car infotainment systems have got issues, you wont find a perfect system out there.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gknight9 on July 30, 2015, 09:14:04 PM
Hi gorgerak an interesting post.

The infotainment system is not really that special. I will grant you that it has to work in a more hostile environment with the variations of cold and heat in a car than a domestic unit would likely experience, but at the end of the day it is just a 7” android based tablet, stuck on the dashboard with the software interface rewritten and security tightened to meet the Mazda spec, it then has a sat-nav app loaded (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.here.app.maps) with maps on the SD card.

If you purchased a tablet that continued to freeze, reboot, did not tether and connect to networks and all the other problems that owners have experienced would you not take it back to the store? But because it’s installed in a car we should be expected to put up with the problems until the manufacturer advise that there is a new release of the software that we can have, or by chance when the car is in being serviced the dealer might install an updated version of the software?

My car has had 2 replacement infotainment centres installed; it has been in a number of times while the dealer tried to locate the problems. With each reset or replacement I lost my infotainment settings, together with all my favourites; radio stations, phone contacts and sat-nav locations, there is no option to backup the user data and then reinstall later (pretty basic for an IT product). It was clear (to me) that the issues being experienced were software related, not once was I offered a software update until my complaint was taken up by Mazda. Yes all software has bugs and issues; the current version of the software  I have installed (above the original version 33 supplied) is 4 or 5 versions behind what the American owners are currently posting about, but it is light years away from what the car was originally supplied with, it’s stable and works. I’m really pleased that the unit is stable, and I’m no longer having frequent trips to or telephone conversations with, the dealer. With the product being installed across the Mazda range, Mazda really did not have too much choice but to sort the problems out.

Mazda and the dealers knew there are issues; it was the denial that got my goat.

It’s poor that the installed sat-nav software only has 2 updates per year; no ability to load your own POI’s and traffic is a separate subscription, with possible data charges dependant on your mobile contract, because Mazda did not purchase the TMC license. I’d like to be able to backup my settings, maybe this will become available in future software releases, as I said my unit is now stable it will be interesting to see how it is developed, it has lots of potential, exciting...
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: gorgerak on July 31, 2015, 05:32:18 PM
I don't really have a whole lot to reply with as I agree with you. The software is lacking in some noodle areas cough DAB radio cough. But I wouldn't advise anyone to not buy the car as a result. As far as you point about denial goes. I'm not hugely surprised, the majority of the time of a customer data the tech don't work - it's up to them to prove it as the people that built it won't believe it until they see it. But that's just IT for you.

As a non Mazda experience: My wife has a 2012 nexus 7 tablet, earlier this year it was upgraded to Android 5. She was not given an option about this. However the tablet is not capable of running Android 5, it just doesn't have the resources. The newer nexus 7 had upgraded hardware and runs the new OS no problem. Google have agreed that this has rendered the tablet unusable but refused to do anything about until yesterday when they said it was no longer supported and they couldn't do anything. The only fix is a £120 new tablet.... ? not impressed Google! Dodgy software can come from anywhere.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 9swampy on July 31, 2015, 07:58:15 PM
As a non Mazda experience: My wife has a 2012 nexus 7 tablet, earlier this year it was upgraded to Android 5...

As a non Mazda response you know you can downgrade the tablet relatively easily to the old OS. There's loads of instructions out there, e.g. https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-a-nexus (https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-a-nexus). If you're not so tech confident if you brick it, you've lost nothing :)

That said I've 2 2012 7's; one's still on 4.4.4 and it's fine, the other is on the latest bar 1 5 and it's still usable... but I agree with the spirit of your post, hence not having upgraded the second at all. HTH, good luck. :)
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: StevenRB45 on August 07, 2015, 06:09:15 PM
Still not been in a moving gen 3 so no idea, I think the rattles are more associated with it being the cheaper model. I looked at buying a 59 plate Mazda 2 sport when it was 6 months old and had 3k miles on it. I backed out due to the rattles in it, but my 3 of the same generation has barely any, well none now as they fixed the one it had at the service.

It's the difference between a super mini and a family car they may have the same equipment but everything some how feels a little cheaper and little less robust.

That's not to say it was unacceptable far from it but the old 3 is still a more robust feeling and comfortable place to travel. Although I do like the digital radio
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 9swampy on August 07, 2015, 07:31:11 PM
Still not been in a moving gen 3 so no idea...

Well even though they wouldn't give you one for a courtesy; now would be a good time to pitch selling your old with a full year's MOT and consider a replacement?  >:D They'd be crazy not to give you a decent test drive O0

Hoping all you say of the 3 vs 2 turns out for the better...
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: StevenRB45 on August 07, 2015, 08:04:25 PM
Much as I would like one they're a bit out of my price range without taking a hit of finance, while I own my current car out right which is one less thing to bother about each month. Once you can get a one with all the jazzy bits for 10k or so I'll be more interested.

My Dad is looking at a gen 3 to replace his long suffering Focus (had it from new on an 05 plate) although he has been procrastinating over the decision for a long time.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 9swampy on August 07, 2015, 08:28:07 PM
While I can empathise, I'm on the other side of the coin and hoping mine (when it finally gets here) holds it's value for a long time  :P Sorry :-[

Try pointing your dad at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zdPF1TT9Z0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zdPF1TT9Z0) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt5UTFuQUys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt5UTFuQUys), maybe that'll help get him off the fence. Those are two of the best objective reviews that helped me commit to the deal :)  O0

Maybe we shouldn't be having this conversation here after it got moved into the 2 thread...
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on August 07, 2015, 08:51:48 PM
Merged with Mazda 3 topic. 

:) 
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: StevenRB45 on August 08, 2015, 08:43:32 AM
Ninja'd

I don't mind if they hold their values for a while, mines 4 in September and I see no reason I won't have it until it's 8. If the gen 3 follows the trend of previous 3s limited supply will keep values solid.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 9swampy on August 08, 2015, 10:34:28 AM
Great, we're on the same page O0 I've every intention of holding on to mine for quite a while, but it's still one of the questions asked & a part of the research done - checking it's value retention potential.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on August 08, 2015, 10:42:56 AM
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Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: misar on August 08, 2015, 06:18:08 PM
Great, we're on the same page O0 I've every intention of holding on to mine for quite a while, but it's still one of the questions asked & a part of the research done - checking it's value retention potential.

When researching value retention between makes it is important to make sure you are comparing like with like. Depreciation data are usually based on the list price when new but, at least in the past, dealers for makes such as Ford or Vauxhall would routinely offer massive discounts to retail customers. When initial discounts are taken into account those makes may well depreciate similarly or even less than the "limited supply" makes such as Mazda.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 9swampy on August 08, 2015, 06:21:54 PM
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Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: 9swampy on August 08, 2015, 06:31:25 PM
When researching value retention between makes it is important to make sure you are comparing like with like. Depreciation data are usually based on the list price when new but, at least in the past, dealers for makes such as Ford or Vauxhall would routinely offer massive discounts to retail customers. When initial discounts are taken into account those makes may well depreciate similarly or even less than the "limited supply" makes such as Mazda.

All good advice, and yeah don't worry not lost on me. Difference in baseline cost, percentage converted to hard "losses", factoring in servicing, parts and fuel costs. Initial discounts cf carwow etc & brinkmanship/guilt trips on the dealer took me close to the door but closing a deal I was happy with - while they still make a happy profit I don't doubt but I want them to be in business for a few years at least to service me so I think it's in everyone's interests to meet somewhere in the middle.  8)

Now the car just has to live up to his promises and your [ie. the forums & reviews, not just YOUR :o] reassurances. I just wish it would f...ing get here a bit quicker so I could go out and play  O0
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: rogon on September 03, 2015, 09:32:15 PM
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere but had confirmation today from Mazda that there is a DAB unit available, my dealership quoting in excess of £260 fitted
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: rmvf on September 03, 2015, 09:46:37 PM
Nobody else use a paired bluetooth mobile in ther M3's?

 My Samsung pairs automatic with car after registering no issues so far
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: bobmax on January 19, 2016, 12:35:00 AM
Yes my iPhone paired nicely, and so did my nokia before that.
I love the voice command as well, never had it b/4
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: speedy mazda on January 29, 2016, 08:25:43 PM
Hi all does anyone know the release date for the New mps ?,and will there be a facelift change to current version of the Mazda3
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 29, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
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Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: speedy mazda on January 29, 2016, 09:11:49 PM
lol willpower well the salesman at my local dealers last year said there was a new mazda 3 mps this year wondered if anyone heard the same.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: StevenRB45 on January 30, 2016, 09:59:33 AM
Your average salesman doesn't know anymore than the man on the street unless there is a launch imminent and they've actually been briefed. When I bought mine I was told to be careful as the bootlight only works on a switch and if I left it on I could flatten the battery..a pearl of wisdom only found on Honest John.

I'd take a guess at between 3 and 4 years from the launch of the launch of the original car, on the basis that's how long before the gen 1 and 2 were facelifted. If there was an MPS imminent they'd have arranged for it to be "caught" testing in my opinion. I suppose they might wait until the facelift for an MPS no point in launching it then having it devalued by a model change 6-12 months later.

Think about how long ago we heard about the new civic type R or RS...cars that have only arrived recently.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 30, 2016, 10:27:01 AM
Somewhere in the depths of my confused mind,  (http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj196/landesmanlester7/Emoticons.gif)   I seem to remember Mazda saying that they were shelving the MPS (Mazda Performance Series) range of cars.   
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: StevenRB45 on January 30, 2016, 05:17:21 PM
The MPS doesn't really fit in with their current direction and never sold brilliantly so could understand them canning it. Also they'd be building a new engine just for it or having to heavily modify a skyactiv lump given the compression ratios the unboosted ones run.

Although from what I've read the RS engine is derived from the old 2.3 so apparently it can do big power and pass emissions tests.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: speedy mazda on January 30, 2016, 07:29:14 PM
I was test driving a cx3 at the time I feel sure he said late this year ,I will ask them again next time I'm in the dealers .
Ive found this on another site http://2016bestcars.com/2016-mazda-3-mps-release-date/  .seems like they will  use  2.5 litre skyactive engine.
Title: Re: NEW 2014 Mazda 3
Post by: Willpower on January 30, 2016, 07:54:41 PM
Yep, I saw that before. That's a US  website.   But I think that IF a new MPS comes out, it won't be in Europe/UK.    However I'd be glad to be proved wrong.