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Offline mike164

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Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« on: June 08, 2020, 07:22:11 PM »
New to the forum so thought I'd post some pics of my car. Had it since summer last year, not modified it as yet, although have just ordered a K&N panel filter and am considering a BBR remap to push the HP upto 170.






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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2020, 08:51:55 PM »
Very nice. I do like these cars in white, it does seem to suit the shape. Is that a Sport Black model by any chance? 
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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2020, 09:56:59 PM »
Thanks very much  :) it has the sport black body trims on it, a previous owner must have fitted it. The kit consists of gloss black front splitter, wing mirror covers, side skirts, rear diffuser and boot spoiler. The garage I bought it from agreed to powder coat the wheels in gunmetal grey as they weren't in great condition. So apart from the material on the seats it's as good as a sport black now.

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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2020, 10:14:12 PM »
I was considering getting a body kit fitted to mine but as it's black it won't really show up so I canned the idea. The kits look much better on the white and red Mazda 3's. If you get the re-map done you'll notice it on the motorway, around town the 120's and 165's drive almost the same.
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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2020, 10:06:26 AM »
BBR have a black Mazda 3 with the sport black trims on it, looks smart but you're right it doesn't stand out quite as much. Yeah I did test drive a 165 before I bought mine and I didn't notice much difference in performance at low revs

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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2020, 02:57:48 PM »
BBR have a black Mazda 3 with the sport black trims on it, looks smart but you're right it doesn't stand out quite as much. Yeah I did test drive a 165 before I bought mine and I didn't notice much difference in performance at low revs

Not really a surprise, given they are the same engine just with the power re-mapped to give better mpg and emissions for the 120PS model. Their torque level is exactly the same, thus you would only notice the difference when you're using peack power at high revs, which would be rare.

Note also that you'll (if not done so already) have to inform your insurer of the car being chipped.  If you haven't yet and don't, and are involved in an accident and it gets discovered, it will likely invalidate your insurance policy (meaning you could be liable for the entire claim if found to be at fault or it's a no fault accident) and cause a lot of long term financial problems, including finding it difficult to insure in the future.

I suspect that you'll end up paying more for both the new chip and insurance than just buying a Sport Nav 165 outright and insuring it as normal, because it will be now known as a 'modified' car.  After all, you're only getting at best an extra 5bhp over the standard 165 model.

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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2020, 05:04:26 PM »
If it is driven in such a way as to notice the extra power, then insurance is probably going to feature sooner rather than later. ;)

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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2020, 06:16:16 PM »
I opted for the 165 Sport over a 120 Sport in the end as I noticed the motorway performance being slightly better with the 165 but there's not a lot in it to be honest and virtually no difference off the motorway. I'd have been happy with either car I was looking at but the 165 had the stone leather option on it which makes the car much brighter inside and that swung it for me in the end. The 120 seemed a darker place to be sat in with the black leather option.

  I've always found it strange why Mazda did the Gen 3 with these two options when the driving experience is hardly different in both cars when driven normally. To drive like a hooligan just to extract the extra power out of the 165 doesn't seem worth the risk of putting it the wrong side of a fence.     
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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2020, 08:07:30 PM »
I'm still on the fence when it comes to the remap. My commute is half B roads and half dual carriageway so it is frustrating when accelerating and the power just dropping off at 4k revs due to the electronic throttle limiter.

It's a good point made about the insurance, although if you were silly/ unlucky enough to badly crash the car I'd be very surprised if the insurance company would slap an accident damaged car on the rolling road to see if it's been remapped. The same could be said for an up rated exhaust or air intake, although they are far easier for the insurer to spot.

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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2020, 06:19:23 PM »
I'm still on the fence when it comes to the remap. My commute is half B roads and half dual carriageway so it is frustrating when accelerating and the power just dropping off at 4k revs due to the electronic throttle limiter.

It's a good point made about the insurance, although if you were silly/ unlucky enough to badly crash the car I'd be very surprised if the insurance company would slap an accident damaged car on the rolling road to see if it's been remapped. The same could be said for an up rated exhaust or air intake, although they are far easier for the insurer to spot.

If the car had bodywork mods, an assessor might get suspicious and ask that it is checked.  Many people are, because of high premiums, deliberately buying lower spec cars and getting them chipped precisely to avoid the higher premiums.

What IS a shame is that the 2.5L petrol isn't available in the Mazda3 in the UK - both late models of the mk3 car and the mk4.  More power and torque and less need to thrash it.

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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2020, 07:06:41 PM »
It's a good point made about the insurance, although if you were silly/ unlucky enough to badly crash the car I'd be very surprised if the insurance company would slap an accident damaged car on the rolling road to see if it's been remapped. The same could be said for an up rated exhaust or air intake, although they are far easier for the insurer to spot.

They don't need roling to roads to check, just diagnostic checks. My wife works in car insurance, and trust me they do dig and catch many who have cheated.......and it always ends with voided policies.

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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2020, 07:58:17 PM »
Makes sense that they would do a diagnostic check, didn't think of that to be fair. Yeah would have been nice to have the option of the 2.5 here in the UK. My previous car was a 2.5 Mazda 6 sport, was a brilliant car and great engine that had plenty of low down torque.

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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2020, 08:51:13 PM »
No 2.5l engine in the UK because of the emissions issue i'd guess which is a real shame.  :(
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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2020, 01:49:45 PM »
I guess so ☹️ the new skyactiv-x engine looks like it's got the best of both worlds! Be a fair few years before they drop down into my price range 😂

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2020, 06:34:16 PM »
It's a good point made about the insurance, although if you were silly/ unlucky enough to badly crash the car I'd be very surprised if the insurance company would slap an accident damaged car on the rolling road to see if it's been remapped. The same could be said for an up rated exhaust or air intake, although they are far easier for the insurer to spot.

They don't need roling to roads to check, just diagnostic checks. My wife works in car insurance, and trust me they do dig and catch many who have cheated.......and it always ends with voided policies.

...and possibly Plod having a word about fraud?

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Re: Mazda 3 Sport Nav
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2020, 06:34:16 PM »