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Mazda 3 swap out
« on: January 05, 2019, 02:46:53 AM »
After receiving an e-mail from Mazda Bolton Motorpark on 27th December advising of their " NY sale now on" I spotted a 3 year old Gen 3 Sport Nav 165 with only 10k on the clock up for grabs. Decided to trade in my 2010 Sport I-stop for it which had only 54k on the clock after they offered me £3,500 as part ex on the new car.

Pretty chuffed with the deal, I was going to keep my old car for another 18 months until I saw the new one purely by chance. It's got the stone leather interior on the 165 Sport as well as the metal kick plates which were optional extras. One thing I might do for this car is buy a proper spare for it plus a jack as the foam stuff alone is rubbish.


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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2019, 01:48:05 PM »
Congrats on the new car, also on finding a 165, been keeping an eye on the local market and seen one in about 4 months.

Hope it treats you well!

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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2019, 04:54:23 PM »
There's a couple of issues with the new car unfortunately. I've noticed a scuff on the rear bumper which I've asked for the dealership to repair and also the front drivers side Bose speaker is rattling if the bass level is above halfway. The car was still disabled tax class as well when I went to pick it up resulting in two trips to the post office to resolve. The sat nav details weren't reset and the car was a bit grubby despite the dealership supposedly giving it a full valet. 

Bit of a disappointing start with a car that's only done 10k in 3 years.
 


 
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2019, 06:17:06 PM »
Hi congratulations on your new car. The scuff and a vibration from a speaker is not si bad as long as everything else is ok.
I traded  my gen 2 sport in there as well , do you notice any difference  in power over the gen 2 with 150 BHP. I will definitely looking at the new Mazda 3  when it is released later this year but would only go for the skyactive x model,the 3 with 180bhp would be fun to drive.

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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2019, 07:28:46 PM »
I think it's noticeably quicker to 60 than my previous car was although pick up in first gear seems slower for some reason, perhaps at only 10k it's not loosened up yet. I've been on the M60 in it to see what it can do and it's certainly more stable than the Gen 2 was if you go beyond 80mph. Going from 150 to 165 doesn't seem a lot, I wasn't expecting a massive difference but there is definitely the feeling that the car could go well over 100 without getting a bit scary.....not that I really do that mind, i'm one of the slowest drivers in the world!

  I took the car back to the dealership today and the sales guy tried removing the scuff with some t-cut. It was never going to work so he's asked me to come back again to see if they can use a mop. Personally I think it might need paint. The speaker rattle I only noticed today when I connected up my I-pod. It's proper annoying, might explain why the radio was set to gardeners world when I took it for a test drive. The people at the dealers seem nice enough but fairly disorganised and I'm wondering if they do any checks at all on cars that have come back to them as 3 year old trade ins like mine is. When I test drove it, the car was still in the condition left by the previous owner, a bit grubby inside, filthy boot etc. I guess they just want to shift units as quickly as poss.   
   

     
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2019, 09:18:05 PM »
I took the car back to the dealership today and the sales guy tried removing the scuff with some t-cut. It was never going to work so he's asked me to come back again to see if they can use a mop. Personally I think it might need paint. The speaker rattle I only noticed today when I connected up my I-pod. It's proper annoying, might explain why the radio was set to gardeners world when I took it for a test drive. The people at the dealers seem nice enough but fairly disorganised and I'm wondering if they do any checks at all on cars that have come back to them as 3 year old trade ins like mine is. When I test drove it, the car was still in the condition left by the previous owner, a bit grubby inside, filthy boot etc. I guess they just want to shift units as quickly as poss.   
   

Not a good sign about the dealer in my eyes.  To me, a poorly presented car means they'll just as likely not be good on the maintenance side, so even if that car was maintained at another dealership, I'd have quite a few reservations about having it maintained at this one.  I must admit this is Mazda's biggest failing - the quality of their dealerships varies tremendously, as our reviews show.  If they upped their game on that front and improved the build quality a bit more generally, but especially on their diesels, then sales would be far higher.  I've been lucky that my local dealer has, in the main, been reasonably good, compared to some of the muppets reviewed on this site.

I'd keep a close eye on them, especially as regards them scrimping on service items (not doing them), doing a poor job on repairs or recommending work that isn't needed.  That can be a decent money-spinner for poor quality dealers who don't get decent sales figures.

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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2019, 10:52:16 PM »
There's no way i'd ever use the dealerships to service my car and definitely not the one where I bought the new car from. I have a local independent garage who are RAC approved where I've been taking my cars for years. I've got to say that Bolton Motorpark do not impress me at all, my girlfriend bought a brand new Mazda 3 off them 2 years ago and they managed to break the seat belt on the first service. Trying to get them to repair it was like pulling teeth so I think i'll be in for fun and games when they have to try and fix the rattly speaker I have on mine.

  It's a shame but it really is only about the units shifted with most of them I think. After that they don't seem to give much of a monkeys. The sales person I dealt with seemed more interested in getting my money off me as quickly as possible to meet his monthly sales target than he was about making sure the car was presentable.
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 11:46:02 AM »
I can appreciate your disappointment. I've bought a number of used cars over the years (between myself and my wife) and I am sure all have been presented immaculately on collection. It's part of the customer experience to be presented with your 'new' car in the best condition possible. It's not something I have ever asked for or negotiated in the discussions beforehand; it's just something all the vendors we have used have done as part of customer care and I am somewhat surprised there appear to be examples where sites are happy to hand over scruffy vehicles that give a poor impression.

With the most recent car we bought there were some scuffs in the alloys when we viewed it and when we agreed to buy it but, without our asking or even mentioning it to anybody at the dealership, they had been restored fully when we collected it to take home and some of the imperfections I had noticed in the paintwork when I first assessed it had been polished out. The car was gleaming. It made a favourable impression and I would buy from them again if a suitable vehicle comes up in the future.

As others have said, if they can't even be bothered to perform a valet to earn the thousands they get for their vehicles it doesn't make one inclined to go back for servicing or repairs. I hope you are pleased with your new car once you have ironed out the niggles and given it the internal and external care it deserves. It does sound nice.
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 05:21:31 PM »
I went back to the dealership today and waited 2 and a half hours while they tried to remove the bumper scuff, firstly with a mop and finally using paint which I said it needed at the start. That's now sorted at last but the Bose speaker in the drivers door is knackered, it took the technician guy 5 seconds to identify this so why it wasn't picked up beforehand is anyone's guess. They've had to order the speaker in so it's yet another ride out to Bolton Motorpark when it arrives (that will be my sixth visit there since I went to see the car on December 28th). I'm now on first name terms with most of the staff and have my own seat in the waiting area.

  All in all, not a great experience really, they were supposed to ring me back this afternoon with a date when I can come back in to have the speaker sorted. Guess what? No phone call. I'm beginning to think that they put out all their used cars for sale without thoroughly checking them, in hope that some customers might not notice or be bothered with minor faults and they factor this in as a percentage of where they could save a few quid.     
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2019, 08:28:34 PM »
2 weeks into driving this car and I have to say i'm distinctly underwhelmed by the 165 Sport. It could be the first time I've changed to a newer car where I think the old one was better. It's possible I've bought a lemon here but the new car feels rough to drive, the gearbox is a bit imprecise especially moving from 2nd to 3rd, the exhaust is noisy (almost seems like it's blowing) and the steering feels heavier than my Gen 2 Mazda did. For a car that's only done 11,000 miles i'm pretty disappointed with it, feels more like it's done 111,000 miles....I may move it on rather quickly. Also, i'll never buy another Mazda from Bolton Motorpark again, they have been hopeless.     
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 02:20:21 PM »
That is a shame and I am sorry it has been a disappointing experience for you. We all love that feeling of getting a replacement car; particularly if, on the face of it, it is an upgrade on the previous one. Obviously I cannot comment on the issues you describe but it did sound like a lovely car from the initial description. I do like the style of the 3rd gens but I have never tested one out and I would probably have gone with a diesel model anyway for my circumstances. As you say, with no experience of anything comparable it is hard to know whether the issues are with the individual vehicle or the model in general. Every purchase of a used car is a bit of a punt; one often wonders why it was moved on in the first place. Obviously many are perfectly genuine because the former owner always buys new every x number of years or they needed the cash or whatever. On the other side of the coin there are the ones that were moved on because they were, as you describe, 'lemons'. One never knows which of the two one is getting.

Glad to hear it is only the vendor you are ruling out future purchases from; it would be a shame if the experience put you off Mazda in general.
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2019, 04:49:17 PM »
Hi
Sorry to hear your not happy with your car / dealer, I think the best thing would be to go and test drive another 3 sport even if it's a 120 BHP that should tell you if it's your car or not regarding gear box and exhaust. Hope you get it sorted either way.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2019, 05:45:42 PM »
Hi
Sorry to hear your not happy with your car / dealer, I think the best thing would be to go and test drive another 3 sport even if it's a 120 BHP that should tell you if it's your car or not regarding gear box and exhaust. Hope you get it sorted either way.

The good thing about all this is my girlfriend owns a 2017 Mazda 3 Sport Nav 2,2 bought brand new from the same dealership so I can do a pretty easy comparison. I know the diesel will be slightly different drive wise but hers feels a lot smoother and quieter than mine does and both have done only 11,000 miles. When mine's in gear there's a fair bit of vibration coming through the gear lever which seems weird as if it's been thrashed. We shall see what happens....   
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2019, 08:27:20 PM »
Well I've finally had enough of the car and decided to reject it back to Mazda. The log book arrived yesterday telling me the car has had 3 previous owners when they advertised it as having only 2. Not that a big deal on it's own but adding it to the other issues described previously I've lost all interest in the car. Hoping for either a full refund or maybe another 165 Sport if they can find me one...however after the experience I've had with the dealership I might just look elsewhere.   
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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2019, 02:37:23 PM »
3 owners on a 2 year old car , seems strange  no wonder they didn't  have the log book and lied about howmany  owners.
Hope you get it sorted.

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Re: Mazda 3 swap out
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2019, 02:37:23 PM »