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Offline Hans Brixit

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Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« on: May 10, 2018, 08:05:02 AM »
My wife has just come back to say she has been locked out of the car. She threw her handbag with the key in it wonto the back seat went to the boot and opened it to chuck something in , shut it went to the drivers door to find she was locked out . Should this happen ? She was at home so we opened it with the spare key ( which I thought I read that the two keys wouldn’t open in close proximity.) and she got in and off she went.

Should this be happening ?

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 08:52:36 AM »
Seems odd to me. I would have thought if the key was left in the car the system recognised it. Normally I keep mine in my pocket but if I park up and get out with a passenger still in, when they move it triggers the alarm, so now I leave my key in and everything's OK. I suppose there is the issue of distance. If the key is on the back seat is it too far away from the front door sensors or the ignition sensor?

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2018, 12:09:52 PM »
Is there any connection with the front seats being occupied? I leave the drivers door on the first latch when in the filling station with my wife in the passenger seat. I would like to be able to disable the damn thing and choose myself what was locked and alarmed. If a woman only has a handbag and no pockets she is left with little choice as to what to do with the key.

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2018, 01:32:00 PM »
Thank you for your musings , glad it didn’t happen when she was 100 miles away ! Maybe a bit of investigation with keys and locations is in order this weekend.

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2018, 03:45:52 PM »
Looking at the manual, the key should be detected anywhere within the cabin. There's a possibility that the key might not be detected if she also had a phone in her handbag or if the battery is low. Where does she normally leave her handbag when she's driving?

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2018, 05:39:54 AM »
Bag is normally on the front passenger seat with a phone in it but that would only be , maybe , a foot further from the front ( where are the sensors ? )at a 90 degree angle difference.

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2018, 09:52:30 AM »
If you want to get really confused, read the key and lock section of the owners manual.

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2018, 11:15:09 AM »
The sensors appear to be in the roof lining, either front or front and rear depending on model. The signal's pretty weak, which is why I was speculating about a phone. It may be that the key was below the phone and the signal was blocked.
As Hanix says, the manual isn't the clearest, but there are warnings about keeping the key away from other electronic devices. Best to have a look at the full manual and judge for yourself.

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2018, 04:51:55 PM »
I don’t join a forum to have to read manuals !

I will tell her to read it and keep her phone in a separate compartment .

 Thanks for the help.

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2018, 07:30:04 PM »
I don’t join a forum to have to read manuals !

And where do you suppose other forum members get their information from ? ........ Just asking.
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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2018, 11:29:47 PM »
If ever there was a book that could do with a new editor it's the Mazda 3 manual. There's literally pages devoted to stuff that you will never need to know in the context of a car instruction manual. While the diagrams of radio waves bouncing off the ionosphere are educational they aren't what you tend to look at manual for/contribute to it being hard to read and an utter mission to use.

Its somewhat part of the charm, but I'd have preferred more detailed instruction in changing bulbs and the other things a manual is actually for.  I can tell you why sunspots interfere with long wave radio but no clue how to remove the trim around the 3rd brake light other than a vague arrow on a non descript picture.
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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2018, 12:19:20 AM »
"I don’t join a forum to have to read manuals !"

I'm not sure if your tongue's in your cheek or some other orifice. Possibly, you're trying to win the Donald J Trump prize for diplomacy.

Either way, it's not the best way to behave if you expect to pick the forum's collective brain when you have a problem.

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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2018, 12:46:16 AM »
StevenRB45

While agreeing that the manual could be better, in it's defence, within the 691 pages, there's a lot of useful information, if you have the time and patience to work your way through it. My main gripe is the two column layout meaning you have to bounce up and down the screen all the time. If I'd still been a wage slave, I'd have printed the whole thing out (my employer was unwittingly generous when it came to printing) and had it liberally tagged with Post Its by now. That said, I could have made up my own page referenced index by now of the parts that are most relevant for me.

On detailed instructions, you have to remember it's an owner's manual, and I can't recall ever having a car manual that went into much detail on running repairs. The other way to look at it is that for the vast majority of buyers, their idea of maintenance is "detailing", whatever that is.

If you want something more technical, have a look at http://www.mazda3forums.co.uk/index.php?topic=14960.0  It contains both the owner's and service manuals.

On your specific point regarding the trim over the high brake light, if it's like the Gen 1, it pulls off.


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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2018, 07:28:28 AM »
The brake light was just an example as to where on certain things it's so vague as to leave more questions than it answers then in others goes into excruciating detail on something pointless.

Perhaps I was just ruined by the Suzuki manual that included instructions on things like changing air filters and informative pictures.

I think for me the main issue is the really informative bits make up about 350 of near 700 pages at which point it is quicker to Google it or ask a question on the forums than wade through a sea of irrelevant info only to find the bit you need is light on detail.
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Re: Keyless question 2015 sport nav
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2018, 11:28:44 AM »
It didn’t take long to be told off for making a joke , or were they tongue in cheek ?

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