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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Fastback vs Hatchback - tyre noise level
« Last post by moozmooz on August 01, 2018, 12:42:45 AM »
" has a stiffer bodyshell than the hatchback because of the way the boot/back window are designed/constructed". Any proof of this or are you just speculating based on the bigger aperture in a hatchback?
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Vehicle Entertainment / Navigation Systems / Re: Mazda connected services
« Last post by misar on July 31, 2018, 09:39:44 PM »
You have to order online, the links take you to Naviextras.com based in Hungry, so be aware that prices are in Euro's to start with. Here were my costs for the updates purchased at the beginning of March when the €/£ rate was a little more favorable:

3 years Map updates  € 183.50 = £162.85
3 years connected services € 92.83 = £82.38   

Total £245.23

My old free standing Garmin still gets free map updates and over the air traffic (through radio signals), regardless of being over the air, connected services or motorway based signs, the traffic information provided is all pants and rarely current and appropriate. I hear what you say about using mobile based maps etc., but what to do with an android tablet glued to the dashboard?? I guess I could fit my Garmin over the front and attached with some rubber bands  >:D >:D

Thanks for the price info.  As regards using (for the 3rd gen car at least) upright built-in screen or phone, what's a shame it that the in-built system doesn't 'pop up' like the gen 1 car's (now rubbish and expensive) DVD based system, leaving much of the dash free if you weren't using it.

The current sat nav is essentially similar to mobile phones, Garmin, etc  in that it is based solely on GPS. The system used for Gen 1 (DVD) and Gen 2 (SD card) was more expensive because it is much more complicated. As well as GPS it uses a speed sensor and gyrosensor (orientation) to keep track of the car's exact position/direction and this works even in an underground car park. Hence, the moment you switch on it remembers exactly where the car is and can still track the direction/distance accurately even while underground until GPS is unavailable again.

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New Members / Re: Hello People
« Last post by spanish on July 31, 2018, 08:27:22 PM »
Hey.
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Wheels/Tyres / MOVED: Mazda 3 2006 wheels
« Last post by Willpower on July 31, 2018, 04:53:31 PM »
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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Fastback vs Hatchback - tyre noise level
« Last post by Tall333 on July 31, 2018, 03:37:57 PM »
The road noise in our 2015 SE-L fastback with the smaller wheels is ok but not great.  BTW I changed 19" to 17" wheels on my CX-5 after running it a while, then changed them back after another while.  There's pretty much no difference in road noise.  Bump absorption yes, but not noise.
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Models/Trim / MOVED: Fastback vs Hatchback - tyre noise level
« Last post by Willpower on July 31, 2018, 02:09:25 PM »
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Wheels/Tyres / Re: Fastback vs Hatchback - tyre noise level
« Last post by Engineer Andy on July 31, 2018, 01:39:29 PM »
Is BM petrol 2.0 120 hp Fastback much quieter/comfier/refined than the hatchback? Considering it comes with 17" wheels, it should be but in practical terms, driving at motorway speeds of 70-80 mph - which one would be a better choice?

Like the gen1 and 2 Mazda3s, the gen3 (its a saloon even if its called a fastback) has a stiffer bodyshell than the hatchback because of the way the boot/back window are designed/constructed.  As such, the handling will be slightly better, though I doubt if most people will notice unless they drove the cars to the limit.  The suspension set up again may slightly differ in terms of where things go, but any differences will be minor, as will anything to do with noise transmitted through to the cabin: at most, the thicker back shelf of the fastback may give slightly better noise dampening to those passengers in the back seats, but gain, its probably marginal at best.

I bought my gen1 saloon because it looked far better than the hatch (the differences in that department have significantly lessened in the gen2 and current gen3), and the boot was larger by 25% (though is less user friendly because the opening [same on the current fastback] is far smaller than on the hatch).  Other than that, the only other differences (other than price at dealerships) was that you get slightly less headroom in the back of the saloon/fastback becaused of the slope of the back window, but you get the 'amazing' benefit of the car being 0.1 sec quicker to 60mph (wooo!).

If you want to keep the car long term and want a comfortable ride, go for the SE-L/SE-L Nav (or below) models shod on 205/60 R16 tyres rather than the Sport models (or any ones upgraded on wheels/tyres) shod on 18in rims.  I found the ride quality on the lower profile tyres to be fine when new and on well-surfaced roads, but noticably rougher (more than I would accept) on either poorly-surfaced/potholed roads (worse than my old car on either its OEM 16in set of my new [more comfortable] 15in higher profile tyres) on cars that were only a couple of years old.

The choice of tyre fitted does make quite a bit of difference as well - the Toyo 16in OEMs are only regarded as fair by owners from what I've read; the 18in Dunlops fare better but like all low profile tyre, don't last as long in comparison and are quite hard to get hold of, and thus are expensive.  The unusual tyre size combos for both the latest 16in and 18in versions mean that both have far less available from other makes (worse for the 18in ones) and are about 20-35% more expensive than more 'standard' 16 and 18in tyres.
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Vehicle Entertainment / Navigation Systems / Re: Mazda connected services
« Last post by Engineer Andy on July 31, 2018, 01:20:39 PM »
You have to order online, the links take you to Naviextras.com based in Hungry, so be aware that prices are in Euro's to start with. Here were my costs for the updates purchased at the beginning of March when the €/£ rate was a little more favorable:

3 years Map updates  € 183.50 = £162.85
3 years connected services € 92.83 = £82.38   

Total £245.23

My old free standing Garmin still gets free map updates and over the air traffic (through radio signals), regardless of being over the air, connected services or motorway based signs, the traffic information provided is all pants and rarely current and appropriate. I hear what you say about using mobile based maps etc., but what to do with an android tablet glued to the dashboard?? I guess I could fit my Garmin over the front and attached with some rubber bands  >:D >:D

Thanks for the price info.  As regards using (for the 3rd gen car at least) upright built-in screen or phone, what's a shame it that the in-built system doesn't 'pop up' like the gen 1 car's (now rubbish and expensive) DVD based system, leaving much of the dash free if you weren't using it.
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Exterior Trim / MOVED: Roofbars
« Last post by Willpower on July 30, 2018, 11:06:59 PM »
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Members Gallery / Re: Martha the Takuya
« Last post by StevenRB45 on July 30, 2018, 10:53:37 PM »
Another year...another mot.

Passed with an advisory for worn rear droplinks which I knew about due to a click on mounting kerbs or travelling on uneven surfaces. Quoted 100 quid a corner to sort, job for another day.

But fighting for another year.
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