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Diesel /DPF issues / Re: 2.2 Diesel problems - still around?
« Last post by Engineer Andy on Today at 12:36:41 PM »
Interesting read Andy to tell you the truth I don’t think I could live with a car which has dirty oil every time you check it😀.My old petrol Mazda oil stays clean as a whistle between services and the level does not go up or down ,even though there’s 83000 miles on it now.hopefully the new petrol skyactive x engine will be a success,and phase out the diesels.

Unlike the Mazda diesels, the non-rotary petrol engines, and especially the port-injected ones like our 1.6s are very dependeable, if not the quickest (but are fine when compared to the opposition like the Focus mk2 1.6 petrol).  Mine has never used any oil, it's normally quite clean around service time (even when I've been doing nearer to the 12.5k service interval) and can still be easily revved up to over 5k revs for the occasional Italian tune-up, as well as being reasonably quiet and smooth the rest of the time.

I too will be waiting and seeing how the new SA-X engine does regarding Mazda's claims on mpg and performance, but especially on reliability over the longer term.  For new tech like that, I won't even consider one unless it has been proven for, well, at least a year, preferably 2-3 years or more, in case any issues crop up related to premature wear or expensive parts failures.  I would have less problems going for one sooner had Mazda follwed the likes of Toyota in going down the 5 year+ warranty route that Hyundai/KIA have gone down.

Even if I moved home/job and needed a diesel-engined car, I would still think twice about getting another Mazda.  Aftersales has always been (in the UK at least [Down Under initially appeared to be fine, but the Aussie government has just slapped Mazda with a big penalty over years' worth of poor aftersales customer service) its main issue, so it seems that Mazda generally needs to get a grip on reliability and customer service worldwide. They are too small a player to be able to afford a Dieselgate-style debacle, and probably why they are going back to their roots in seemingly phasing out diesels apart from a few select (large) models and vans/trucks, as well as the tie-up with Toyota to produce proper hybrids (not just the 'mild' ones like in the gen-4 Mazda3) and EVs.
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New Members / Re: Newbie
« Last post by Willpower on Yesterday at 10:40:02 AM »
Welcome to the forum................eventually :)
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New Members / Re: Newbie
« Last post by Alfisto on Yesterday at 08:37:06 AM »
Hi Phil
Welcome to the group. I too, have a 2016 2.0l in soul red and agree with all your comments and like you this is my first Japanese Car and I'm thrilled to bits with it. In fact i haven't seen one I would swap it for.

Ian Haigh
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Exterior Trim / Re: ELECTRIC DOOR MIRROR
« Last post by UraniumSnake on Yesterday at 08:11:34 AM »
I'm so glad this popped up. My D/S has started to fail occasionally when popping out. Thought someone had knocked it and broken it. Was going to suffer as I thought it would be a £300-400 fix.
Guess this will be warranty repaired along with the wiper motor recall  ;D

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New Members / Newbie
« Last post by phiso on Yesterday at 08:02:37 AM »
Hi All,

My Mazda 3 2016 Sport Nav 2.0 is my first Japanese car ever (and I'm an oldie!) and I've had it since Nov last year.

Very little online/forum advice and help around in the UK so I'm glad I found this one :-)

What I like about my Mazda:

- comfort
- equipment level
- colour (Soul Red)
- style
- great economy from a 2.0

What's not so good

- paint chips so easily
- lack of choice when it comes to tyres
- engine could do with a little more "pep" ( but that would probably conflict with economy)

Having mainly been a blue-oval buyer, I'm glad I made the switch.

Phil

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Exterior Trim / Re: ELECTRIC DOOR MIRROR
« Last post by Ed-Led on November 18, 2019, 08:45:25 PM »
This is a known fault at Mazda, my partner's driver door mirror started sticking on her 2017 2.2d and she had to have it fixed on the warranty. I'm not 100% sure but it might be a recall issue as well. They basically owned up to admitting there's a lot of cars with this problem.
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Diesel /DPF issues / Re: 2.2 Diesel problems - still around?
« Last post by speedy mazda on November 18, 2019, 07:25:47 PM »
Interesting read Andy to tell you the truth I don’t think I could live with a car which has dirty oil every time you check it😀.My old petrol Mazda oil stays clean as a whistle between services and the level does not go up or down ,even though there’s 83000 miles on it now.hopefully the new petrol skyactive x engine will be a success,and phase out the diesels.
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Exterior Trim / Re: ELECTRIC DOOR MIRROR
« Last post by phiso on November 18, 2019, 06:49:03 PM »
2016 Sport Nav

Not quite the same problem, but I get the usual sticking mirror issue where one of the mirrors refuses to fold in or out from time to time. It's important they fold for me or I can't get the car into the garage, and the problem is  normally sorted with a blast of WD40.
 
You see, I use the folded-in passenger mirror as my guide for the car being far enough over to the left so that I can get out of the car without doing myself an injury. Only this time I didn't check that the driver's side mirror had folded in... and it hadn't  :o  Crump!...and now the d/s mirror doesn't move at all in either direction (glass movement and indicators are all OK) and there's this constant whirring noise as the motor tries to move the mirror.

Mazda can fix it of course, hurrah! Or rather, they can replace it. At a cost. Just 324 of our finest British pounds, that's all  :(

Maybe I just need to remember that there are two mirrors, not one. Or perhaps Mazda should make mirrors that don't start sticking after only 2 or 3 years so that we mere drivers don't have to be so paranoid about what happens when they do! Grrrr!!!
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Diesel /DPF issues / Re: 2.2 Diesel problems - still around?
« Last post by Engineer Andy on November 18, 2019, 02:08:22 PM »
I was just curious as there’s a lot of cheap diesel mazdas about for sale.A friend had a Mazda 6 with the 2.2 Diesel engine and loved the torque from the engine and never had a single problem.My other half has a Mini Countryman with the 2 litre bmw turbo Diesel engine in it so far no problems,does drink bit of oil now though.Is it from 2018 the Mazda Diesel engine has an adblue tank?.

Despite the 2.2TD passing the latest emissions tests, and Mazda bringing out an all-new 1.8TD, Mazda dropped the former from the gen-4 Mazda3 range and Mazda3s based on the latter were dropped from sale all of 3-4 months after appearing on the UK market; they currently are only sold in the CX-3 where it replaced the 1.5TD (no 2.TD option).

The 2.2TD is still in the CX-5 and 6, but I suspect it will be phased out over the coming years, not just because major cities will start banning diesels (starting with older ones), but because many people wrongly bought a diesel-engined car when a petrol should've been the one to go for, due to their usage pattern.

Again, if you do a decent amount of mileage per year and the majority on faster flowing roads, then diesels, including the 2.2TD, are fine - they are being used for the type of driving they were designed for.  The problem often comes when buying second hand - you rarely know what the usage patterns were for previous owners - high or low total mileage means very little if you don't know the context - i.e. the former could be lots of stop-start slow speed city use as a taxi (which may or may not be ok), the latter could be (like my usage pattern) made up of weekly or bi-weekly longer trips where the car gets thoroughly warmed up and in the case of a diesel, would more likely passively regen its DPF or at least have the time to do an active regen whilst on the go.

That's why I'd always be wary buying a used DPF-equipped diesel-engined car, even an ex-demo, because they often do short journeys, including being moved just a few yards around the dealership for various reasons.

I too have noticed A LOT of diesels and Sport-spec models ending up as nearly new 6mo - 2yo on dealership forecourts - some are probably ex-hire cars, but I have my suspicions that many are unloved cars from people who made the wrong choice on engine (see above) and/or trim level (e.g. Sport spec = large wheels/wide low profile tyres = hard ride + regular tyre/wheel repairs/repacements necessary at great expense).  On the tyres, my local dealer often (when I'm in their getting mine serviced) quotes £150 for the replacement of an 18in tyre compared to about half as much for 16in tyres (both above what you'd pay at a n indie or fast fitter, but its the difference).

I've also heard a good few customers complain about the 2.2TD's issues and having to come in for forced regens, and I'd put good money on them being the type of owner who mainly does shorter trip and in slow speed urban areas in heavy traffic.  I'm sure sales staff don't exactly discourage people to buy diesels (until recently perhaps) if its for that sort of work, but customers just don't do their homework.  Increased mpg is more than offset by serious engine problems that are inherrant to their design and will keep coming back if they are used in that way.

The problem comes for people with caravans who normally use their car for the above urban work and take the caravan out on holiday a reasonable times a year and thus need a diesel-powered car for the high torque capacity - too expensive (cost over a year) to have a smaller petrol-engined car for day-to-day use and hire a diesel for the towing trips.  I think this is why some people still love their old non-DPF equipped diesel cars, like those with the older 1.9 VAG diesel, which had a decent amount of torque and was dependable.
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Diesel /DPF issues / Re: 2.2 Diesel problems - still around?
« Last post by speedy mazda on November 17, 2019, 05:24:52 PM »
I was just curious as there’s a lot of cheap diesel mazdas about for sale.A friend had a Mazda 6 with the 2.2 Diesel engine and loved the torque from the engine and never had a single problem.My other half has a Mini Countryman with the 2 litre bmw turbo Diesel engine in it so far no problems,does drink bit of oil now though.Is it from 2018 the Mazda Diesel engine has an adblue tank?.
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