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Title: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on April 30, 2015, 01:15:23 PM
Thinking about giving my head/tail lamps a spruce up, so silvertec indicators to get rid of the horrid bare orange bulbs and replace with silver. L.E.D. Sides and maybe some blue tinted halogen bulbs. For the side lights I've noticed the canbus bulbs are quite large things due to the resistors whereas normal ones are smaller. Does the 3 actually need canbus l.e.d?  I don't believe it has bulb warnings so shouldn't but just wondering if someone had fitted leds and confirm.
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on April 30, 2015, 02:24:23 PM
Hi Steven I've just fitted some LED sidelight bulbs canbus free they fitted fine (apart from needing small hands to squeeze in the space to twist and pull them out). Here's some http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/501-W5W-led-extreme-power-1.5w-360-degree-white-blue-red-amber.html?bulb_search=car
There are others to choose from look here;
Go to the autobulb direct home page,enter your reg select model/year and it gives you a list of regular bulbs, upgraded bulbs plus led options for front and rear lights.
I've also just fitted new number plate leds too but I bought those off eBay from redline.  ;)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on April 30, 2015, 02:45:57 PM
Sorry Canbus free?  As in regular the ones without resistors built in? Also got any pictures?  Trying to avoid it looking too blue!
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on April 30, 2015, 06:29:24 PM
Here are the side light bulbs I bought
http://www.eurocarparts.com/mobile/ecp/p/car-accessories/car-maintenance-accessories/bulbs/brake-lights-bulbs/?971776331&0&cc5_401
I haven't got a picture yet but will get one for tomorrow for you. These are a very crisp white light.
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on April 30, 2015, 06:36:40 PM
Here are the number plates led's
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=291089564597
These are crisp white also
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on April 30, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
I'm looking for something that looks more like a regular bulb, with how much everything is on show in the headlamps.

Probably something more like this: http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/OSRAM-501-Cool-White-LED-Bulbs-2850CW-02B1.html

Think it'll look good with these:
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/581-PY21W-Philips-Silver-Vision-indicator-bulbs.html

Also if it can do without canbus then they'll be much lower power drain, the difference between the two is a resistor to increase the draw from the electrical system from an led bulb to the same as a filament one. Might just pull a bulb and see if I get a warning light.

Also found some 5000k coloured (also known as light blue/white) halogen H11 bulbs...

Edit: Although a pair of actual hids would be cheaper and only slighlty less legal...


So er yeah...73 quid by the time I've fitted number plate bulbs, I'd like to de fried egg the rear lights as well but that'll probably have to wait.
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on April 30, 2015, 08:31:31 PM
I couldnt give a definite answer as to wether our the Mazda 3's have a error bulb warning, I didn't test it by bulb removal, I just worked on the theory it's a newer car than others I've owned and it was better to err on the side of caution. The type of bulb is your personal choice, but just to show you how much you can see of the bulbs, here are a couple of pictures of my n/s headlight and the LED in place, you have to squat down and get really close to actually see it.
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/72C3CBDA-1663-423C-9650-8DC0357E5D5F.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/72C3CBDA-1663-423C-9650-8DC0357E5D5F.jpg.html)
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/2AD58564-96D4-4DFB-86EF-A580361BFEFC.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/2AD58564-96D4-4DFB-86EF-A580361BFEFC.jpg.html)
Switched on but take into account it's a phone camera and its still light outside so the colour isn't true as it is to the naked eye.
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/3888AB48-8870-48BC-8208-70A3139DC3BE.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/3888AB48-8870-48BC-8208-70A3139DC3BE.jpg.html)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on April 30, 2015, 09:20:20 PM
Thanks for the photos, look better than I thought, hit a snag pulling the bulb..couldn't get my hand in to take it out. Did you disconnect the large grey wiring loom connection inboard of the lamp units?

Found this online, the left headlamp is the exact combo I'd like Phillips diamond vision 5k and led side.
https://youtu.be/TxHrT-0-GtQ
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on April 30, 2015, 10:13:22 PM
Yes, just press the clip in on the harness hold it in and pull it apart, one side of the harness is fixed on to a little plastic arm (underside) it's only slotted on and isn't fixed by anything just wiggle it loose by pulling it and it gives you a little more room to work with as you will have both side of the wiring loom out of the way, then either 3 fingers or thumb and 2 fingers can get in to turn the bulb holder quarter of a turn to loosen it off and pull it out, in reverse do the same but,,, I found it easier to kneel down and look at the bulb through the headlamp/sidelight as I put it in position located the slots then twisted it to the lock position. Alternatively borrow someone with small hands to do the job while you instruct from the side lines with a cold one in your stubby holder  O0 .
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on May 02, 2015, 09:46:20 PM
Was up early this morning so decided to stop procrastinating and do it. First pulled a bulb and confirmed no warnings, second read the manual as to how to remove bulbs...I did this the wrong way I'll admit. Probably just as well as the manual specifies removing the arch liners for all but headlamp bulb changes, when all that is required is the unclipping of the headlamp loom to allow access. I can confirm canbus compatible bulbs are not required, also if you do decide to fit LEDs try the light before refitting the holder. LEDs work one way only and I have a 100% track record for fitting them backwards and having to start again...

Neway pictures, Standard in daylight, new in daylight, new bulb off and final newbulbs at night...although they make the headlamps look hilariously yellow so that is my next job.
(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/noplate11.jpg)(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/noplate21.jpg)(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/noplate4.jpg)(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/20150502_121054.jpg)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on May 07, 2015, 02:31:01 PM
Hi StevenRB45
I've just ordered these silver indicator bulbs from eBay
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=360468255567
The ones you pointed out further up this post don't fit our model as they are a bayonet fitting and ours are capless, once received and fitted I will let you know if they are ok.
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on May 08, 2015, 01:42:06 PM
Hi here are the indicator bulbs I ordered and I've just order another set to place in the front now I know they work ok. Sorry if pictures don't represent it well.
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/D15C8E99-0AEF-49BB-837B-08DBF4FB945A.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/D15C8E99-0AEF-49BB-837B-08DBF4FB945A.jpg.html)
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/BB9082FA-B7D6-4AC3-A05F-4CC1D75FF42D.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/BB9082FA-B7D6-4AC3-A05F-4CC1D75FF42D.jpg.html)
Above is the Amber bulb
Below the silver bulb
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/1E2B90AA-11A6-4DAC-AD86-84B34F288581.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/1E2B90AA-11A6-4DAC-AD86-84B34F288581.jpg.html)
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/332F2F27-15EA-4607-A602-052488FF7995.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/332F2F27-15EA-4607-A602-052488FF7995.jpg.html)
(http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/mogly_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/42FF78D4-64E0-49A3-A36C-25D25D67BDF5.jpg) (http://s682.photobucket.com/user/mogly_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-04/42FF78D4-64E0-49A3-A36C-25D25D67BDF5.jpg.html)
Above silver indicator doing its thang  O0
No fried egg as the saying goes
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on May 08, 2015, 02:05:38 PM
Good job I haven't ordered any yet then! Strangely I was looking at the clusters today thinking about getting some silverbulbs. I await photos of the front with interest want to see how it looks, although you will always have the red edges at the rear and the orange at the front. The rear looks cleaner, think the front should look a lot better given how obvious the bulbs are.

Edit: spotted your post in the Takuya thread, rather than cluttering it up with bulb talk I'll post here. I went for Phillips Diamond Vision H11
(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/bulbs2.jpg)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on May 08, 2015, 02:29:18 PM
Nice  :)
I will post when they arrive & are fitted with pics to. Think I'm going to go in from the wheel arch by removing the inner arch lower plastic trim will let you know.
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on May 08, 2015, 03:31:41 PM
I had a look a while ago you can reach the back of the indicators from above but it will probably be a lot easier with the arch liners peeled back. If I'm going to the trouble i'd also change the fog bulbs while I'm there, to sort this out.
(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/noplate7.jpg)

Looks like I've specifically fitted yellow bulbs to the fogs! Also I think I will do the side repeaters as well as the fried egg is very strong in clear lens in the middle of a white wing!
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on May 08, 2015, 05:22:16 PM
Yep you could be right doing both together, although you can always do the  fogs from undoing the plastic trim under the front valance I would have to Jack mine up tho with it being lowered. I will get round to doing others in time, however I've now had two lots of led's for the map lights and both lots have been unable to fit as they are to bulky and won't fit into the retaining clip. I have seen some on autobulb that are adapted on a spring and then you choose which size led you want 9,12,14 led's on a small panel that then clips into a little connector on the spring which sits in place where the bulb would go. I've just picked up my plasti dip (2xcans) from P/O to eventually do my rear bumper but waiting when I have a full day to myself and good weather and a steady hand and patient  ;D be waiting forever then!!!
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on May 20, 2015, 08:44:56 PM
Ok I've had my new front silver indicator bulbs a week now and just got round to fitting them. I've started a new thread above this be as I've fitted some new LED fog light bulbs  O0 and there's some pics of how to get to the front indicator and fog lights.
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on May 23, 2015, 03:20:11 PM
Good times, did you get a photo of the front clusters with the silver bulbs in place?
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: mogly on May 24, 2015, 03:20:35 PM
Hi Steven I've posted some photos in the other post
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on November 06, 2015, 02:16:22 PM
Well the halfords sides lasted 6 months, had a nightmare changing them, lost one old bulb inside the unit (thankfully in a place where it's invisible) and the other bulb holder just won't do up. Replaced with festoon L.E.D. lights, do hope the unit won't cloud up as it just won't seat on the drivers side for no apparent reason. Are nice and bright I suppose.


Edit: amazing what difference an hour to cool off makes (for me not the car)...thought the wire for the holder would be on different side from other side (so both wires would be inboard of the holder) of car but no the used the same holder on both sides so it's up against wing on drivers side, now secured! Just the missing old bulb now lol
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: Willpower on November 06, 2015, 03:12:46 PM
You need the magnet on a piece of string trick.  :)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on November 06, 2015, 03:34:31 PM
Another day, I have working lights the other bulb is out of sight and mind and with my current luck with it I wouldn't be surprised if the car burnt to the ground in the retrieval attempt!

OK just seen then for the 1st time at duskish...headlamps no longer required apparently.

They are pure white while the others were slightly blue, bear in mind it's not even properly dark.
(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/IMAG0345_1.jpg)

Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: amar1994 on February 05, 2016, 04:45:19 PM
How long these LEDs will last,i want to buy Osram W5W LED 6000k bulbs.They're 8,95 pounds, should i go for it?  :)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on February 05, 2016, 09:30:34 PM
I would say with LED you are better off going more expensive cheap ones just don't last. Seems like you've found a mid range set and OSRAM is a decent make so should last significantly longer than the 99p eBay specials.

Personally I wouldn't go back to standards now when I see a 3 with the standard yellow on the front it just ages the car. Expect to be shopping for headlamp bulbs if you take the plunge leds and standards do not look good together.

Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: amar1994 on February 05, 2016, 10:32:51 PM
I asume something like Philips Diamond vision or Osram Nightbreaker  ;) 8)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on February 05, 2016, 11:19:05 PM
Yeah or depending on local laws HID. Osrams are probably brighter than Diamond Vison but the Phillips are closer in to white in colour.

My car with one diamond vision and one standard.
(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/noplate6.jpg)
Title: Re: L.E.D. side lights
Post by: StevenRB45 on October 21, 2016, 08:51:13 PM
Another day, I have working lights the other bulb is out of sight and mind and with my current luck with it I wouldn't be surprised if the car burnt to the ground in the retrieval attempt!

OK just seen then for the 1st time at duskish...headlamps no longer required apparently.

They are pure white while the others were slightly blue, bear in mind it's not even properly dark.
(http://www.fiatforum.com/gallery/data/1662/medium/IMAG0345_1.jpg)

Well these lasted nearly a year...currently have a disco sidelight on the drivers side. So I'm going to be fighting the headlamps again tomorrow. Tried fitting my old bulbs, neither work so off to the shops tomorrow.

FML probably going to get another set as I can't be bothered to do a pair again.

Edit: all fixed now bought another pair which takes my spending on sidelight bulbs to 40 quid...yes it would be a lot cheaper to have had 50p 5w5 but it looks cook and I now have a spare.

Also it took 30 seconds to change..easy when you know how!