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Remote central locking
« on: June 18, 2017, 07:32:48 PM »
I've recently bought a 05 Sport. I was given 2 keys, but no central locking fob. Did all 05 Sports come with remote locking, or was it an optional extra? I don't mind unlocking with the key. I bought a 2nd hand fob off Ebay and done the reprograming sequence, but with no joy. I've tried new batteries in the fob.

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2017, 08:02:04 PM »
I'm sure a mk1 owner will be along shortly to answer.

Afraid I'm asking a random question which is are you the same L22 of the ds3 owners club. Had a blue ds3 that went went rusty down both flanks and then Citroen destroyed it with a substandard repair job?

Edit just seen your hello thread no nevermind, a different L22 getting kicked by a French car!
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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2017, 08:18:22 PM »
I'm sure a mk1 owner will be along shortly to answer.

Afraid I'm asking a random question which is are you the same L22 of the ds3 owners club. Had a blue ds3 that went went rusty down both flanks and then Citroen destroyed it with a substandard repair job?

Edit just seen your hello thread no nevermind, a different L22 getting kicked by a French car!

No. Not me. Unfortunately, my wife has a 206cc. A sucker for punishment you might say

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2017, 11:38:50 PM »
All Mazda 3 between 2004-2010 had 2 keys and 2 fobs when new. (Not sure after that)  If you do a search from the home page, I recollect some topics that had the part Nos. or at least the types of key fobs supplied. There are some available on e bay, but you have to get the right one 

This is the type you want for a 2005 reg  it is a Visteon  model 41836   
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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2017, 11:57:51 PM »
My 2005 fob looks like this https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.KhqMh3UJjuvR-jiUAHNJigEsDz&pid=15.1

I should be visiting it later on in the week so I'll check details then.

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2017, 04:47:42 PM »
All Mazda 3 between 2004-2010 had 2 keys and 2 fobs when new. (Not sure after that)  If you do a search from the home page, I recollect some topics that had the part Nos. or at least the types of key fobs supplied. There are some available on e bay, but you have to get the right one 

This is the type you want for a 2005 reg  it is a Visteon  model 41836   

That's the one I got off ebay. My car is a 2005 55reg. So it should work then?

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2017, 05:32:08 PM »
Well I would have said so. But seeing moomooz posting above, I suppose it's possible that they changed in 2005.  The only way of course is to programme it and find out. :)
 
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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2017, 10:15:18 PM »
Information on how to programme a Visteon 41836 Key fob.. If you need it .

Step 1: Open driver side door and leave open.

Step 2: Lock and Unlock the drivers door using the power door lock switch on the door

Step 3: Insert key into the ignition.

Step 4: Turn Key to ON position and return to Lock (off) position. Do this 3 times within 10 seconds. LEAVE key in the ignition in Lock (off) position.

Step 5: Close and open the drivers door 3 times. Leave door open after this step

Step 6: ECU should respond by locking and unlocking the doors once.

Step 7: Press any button on remote #1 twice. ECU responds by locking and unlocking the car doors.

Step 8: Additional remotes, repeat Step 7 for up to 3 remotes total.

Step 9: Remove the key from the ignition and the ECU will respond a final time with a series (about 4) of door locks and unlocks. You're done

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2017, 10:27:15 PM »
Information on how to programme a Visteon 41836 Key fob.. If you need it .

Step 1: Open driver side door and leave open.

Step 2: Lock and Unlock the drivers door using the power door lock switch on the door

Step 3: Insert key into the ignition.

Step 4: Turn Key to ON position and return to Lock (off) position. Do this 3 times within 10 seconds. LEAVE key in the ignition in Lock (off) position.

Step 5: Close and open the drivers door 3 times. Leave door open after this step

Step 6: ECU should respond by locking and unlocking the doors once.

Step 7: Press any button on remote #1 twice. ECU responds by locking and unlocking the car doors.

Step 8: Additional remotes, repeat Step 7 for up to 3 remotes total.

Step 9: Remove the key from the ignition and the ECU will respond a final time with a series (about 4) of door locks and unlocks. You're done

All that happened apart from the ECU responding to the remote. Have now ordered the other remote. I gathered with mine being a 55 plate and the later of the 2005, it would require the "more square" remote

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2017, 06:46:54 PM »
Ok. I've now tried both remotes with no joy. I'm stuck now :-(

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2017, 11:37:06 PM »
Looking again at the photo I posted, it looks like that's a fob for a saloon, albeit the correct shape. The hatchback is different. Instead of a boot lock/unlock, it has a silence/disable alarm button if I remember correctly and looks like this http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rDcAAOSw3v5YrHe5/s-l300.jpg  It's possible that the two are identical and the signal on the third button is assigned to different functions on saloon & hatch.

I had hoped to have been able to check my old car but I'm unable to travel at present due to illness. Maybe next week.


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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2017, 05:30:19 PM »
I read something somewhere about making sure the fob has the correct fcc number. Trouble is, I ain't got a fob to compare it with

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2017, 06:15:17 PM »
I still haven't sorted this out. Does anyone know how I can get hold of the "fcc" number if I have no fob for reference?

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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2017, 06:29:39 PM »
I'm still a bit puzzled about this.  Have you established which of the fob designs is correct for your year ?    If I remember correctly (long time ago) the oval-ish  design I posted came as two different models.
There was the  Visteon  41836 (the number id is on the reverse of the item) as I posted above, but there was an identically shaped unit with a different number (can't remember, sorry).  There was a case where a member got the right shape but the wrong number and it didn't work.

I have no idea if you have the other squarer type.


EDIT :   I did a search on Visteon and came up with 13 different threads. Have you had a look at these ? They might help.
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Re: Remote central locking
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2017, 06:51:28 PM »
I have bought both types off ebay at a cost of £15 each, but still no joy. So a waste of £30, but I'd quite happily spend another £30 if it was a guarantee that it would work. Been lucky so far. Haven't had the misfortune of being caught in the rain trying to unlock my car.   

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Re: Remote central locking
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