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18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« on: February 13, 2016, 01:15:28 PM »
Well I've clocked 11k up now bringing my car up to a total of just under 48k after 4.5 years so I figured I'd do a little summation of my impressions.

I'll start with the bad stuff get it out of the way:

Few small rattles, one of which is the centre console shrinking in cold temperatures as it goes away when the heating kicks in.

Interior perceived quality is somewhat lacking especially on the doors and the mismatch of display colours, having said that I have no doubt that it'll all still work in another 5 years.

I'm sure there is better way to do a boot release than they did it.

Factory fit Toyos are pretty awful and mean I understeer quite a lot in cold or damp conditions and the DSC is not a fan of this sort of thing which kills forward momentum if you're attempting to drive through it.

Interior space wise it's not bad, but could be better given it's one of the longest cars in the class also back doors don't open particularly wide.

Oh and it could do with about 40 more bhp on occasion, but the same economy and insurance costs. Tbf I'd already driven the car on a long test drive and knew what I was getting and it's adequate most of the time.

Also interior noise is best described as bearable rather than "quiet", shall see if that improves when the toyos go.

No USB port and Bluetooth occasionally craps out

Overall though I like everything else.

Climate control which just does the job without fuss and doesn't seem to hobble the fuel economy too badly given I never actually turn it off.

Sports seats are nice and supportive and my OH loves the bum warmers.

Everything just feels nicely thought out, there's plenty of storage in the doors, glove box and the centre armrest/storage box

Highspeed ride is very good although the trade off appears to be slightly firm at low speeds

Having said the engine needs more power it's game enough and will give what it does have willingly, easy enough to leave city cars behind in hills.

I like the brakes, mainly because I hate brakes that emergency stop when you glance the pedal, a nice firm shove required and smooth consistent pedal action.

Stereo is good for a stock system

The gearbox is a pleasure to use, also the chassis is up for it on the odd occasion I decide to go for it on a twisty road. But it's also been a good cruiser and perfectly good at doing tip runs or taking my OHs family out.

Overall good all rounder if possibly a little more sporty in terms of ride, handling and looks than the class average.

In terms of wear and tear it has stone chips, one wheel has corrosion round the valve, previous owner must have liked to slide in over the drivers side bolster as it's pretty badly creased but has never got worse since I got it. Otherwise good as new although 4 tyres and new front discs and pads are on the horizon.
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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2016, 03:11:59 PM »
An in depth and honest review from an experienced owner. Thanks :)

Apart from this ! !

Oh and it could do with about 40 more bhp on occasion, but the same economy and insurance costs.

     I know it's tongue in cheek,  but good luck with that. 


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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 06:28:59 PM »
An in depth and honest review from an experienced owner. Thanks :)

Apart from this ! !

Oh and it could do with about 40 more bhp on occasion, but the same economy and insurance costs.

     I know it's tongue in cheek,  but good luck with that.

When I got this car hiding behind door number 3 was a civic type R, but while I do spend a little time (the time it takes to get from 35 to 70 in third to be exact) wishing I had the power I'm fairly willing to bet I'd spend a lot more time if I'd bought the type R wishing that it had proper suspension, used less fuel and didn't cost the earth to insure.

One day...when I can afford a toy car..then there shall be powaaaah.

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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 11:47:23 AM »
That's a great review SteveRB45

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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 08:47:02 PM »
Yes I'm still here  :P &  I still own my 3 (37k now) and agree with Steven about the slightly under power of the 1.6 but that's after owning a 200bph pocket rocket >:D
Still enjoying owning it , 3 years in August think my only gripe is rattling headrests and the quality of the side supports on the front seats as they become mishapen especially on the drivers side on the right hand side quite creased. Other than that still loving driving and owning it, had no trouble just had a new replacement  battery recently and replaced the battery in the key fob last month so really been great on running costs and I'm still running it on high octane unleaded with good return. It looks the biz & still looks mean although it could do with a good polish as I've not been up to doing it recently so I might have it valeted by the Gal Willpower recommended on his recent post ,,, seems she does a thorough job inside & out  :o
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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 09:31:26 PM »
Welcome back, we were going to send the east Anglia mountain rescue team after you!

I have that very same crease by the sounds of it.

To be fair to the 1.6 it's typical of the breed. I also wouldn't be surprised if it's actually got a little more than advertised as mine with 50k on and on 99 octane doesn't feel any slower than my dads focus which apparently has 12 more bhp and a bit more torque as well. Not a rocketship or even vaguely warm but the figures on it feel a little conservative in my opinion given a similar spec 1598 16v with vvt built by Ford is apparently capable of more power but feels no faster.

Compared to my last 2 cars (fastest kg which did 0-60 in just under 10) it doesn't feel 2.2 seconds slower.
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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 09:59:35 PM »
                                                           
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2016, 10:56:10 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D Willpower you can take the Mountie outfit off & stand down.  ;) ;D I've only been on a short sabbatical into the wilderness took a couple of wrong turns but followed my mess & found my way back ;D   :P good to see and read it's busy on here and Will is keeng it in order  :o  ;)
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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2016, 11:00:27 PM »
Awww  I was enjoying dressing up.  You spoil all my fun..

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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2016, 06:34:21 PM »
Good evening all my front drivers seat has the same crease , but no rattling headrests.THe mazda 323 we had before  had same crease drivers seat so it must be the seats.
The only rattle I get is on startup if I drive off with the choke still out engine revs above 1000rpm,once revs droppdd blue light out never rattle.Got to take back lights off to clean green algae around edges,might try silicone grease smear to stop going green again.

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2016, 09:43:51 AM »
The only rattle I get is on startup if I drive off with the choke still out engine revs above 1000rpm,once revs droppdd blue light out never rattle.Got to take back lights off to clean green algae around edges,might try silicone grease smear to stop going green again.

I have both of those, the back lights don't annoy me enough to get the spanners out, especially they will still trap water and will be back to square 1 sharpish.

I don't classify the cold start noise as a rattle, like the 12mph clunk, it is how it is for mechanical reasons. When I first heard it I was slightly alarmed so did some heavy googling. As I can see it is a side effect of cold start emissions control systems but benign. Mine pretty much doesn't do it at all in summer and only for maybe the first 45 seconds to 2 minutes in winter.

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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2016, 11:07:49 PM »
Willpower surely you don't stop because it's the weekend? Isn't Barbara due around that time  ??? ;D
The algea does recur but a once a year clean does the trick & the cold start rattle doesn't bother me as I always let it idle until the revs drop then move off,,,,,, but that damn headrest ! It's actually firmly fixed it doesn't matter if it's extended or fully pushed down it does it regardless over every bloomin manhole! Mind you only when no one is sat in the passenger seat  ???
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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2016, 11:33:17 PM »
Factory fit Toyos are pretty awful and mean I understeer quite a lot in cold or damp conditions and the DSC is not a fan of this sort of thing which kills forward momentum if you're attempting to drive through it.

Also interior noise is best described as bearable rather than "quiet", shall see if that improves when the toyos go.


To quote myself...the Toyo/Landsails have gone. Not had too long with the new Goodyears on but seems night and day. Was driving in great flood conditions earlier and only the deepest puddles (I.e. ones that push waves as you go through) caused any deviation from the line.

Also my car has always tramlined and the best tyres it's ever had on it were 4.5mm, by the time I got rid of them at 3mm I would have described cambered back roads as "an adventure". Also it had what I can only describe as a high frequency noise through the rim of the wheel, again I was used to it.

Got the new tyres on and all of a sudden, it tracks straight, the wheel only gives required feedback and is much less "noisy" at all but especially motorway speeds. Also rolling noise is improved so worthwhile doing, and hopefully I won't be seeing the DSC light anywhere near as often.

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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2016, 09:23:31 PM »
hi steven great tyres for grip in the wet like I said before but I hope the soft rubber is not why I had a stone got stuck in one yesterday which has caused a leak.ive been driving since 17 never had a tyre replaced through a stone digging in.
The stone seem to have got stuck in the centre of the tyre so I'm hoping they can mend it with a plugpatch.Think I posted before they seem to pick up stones a lot due to the narrow grooves in middle tread.FUNNY THING IS I see another person with space saver wheel on today asked why he said a stone had punctured his tyre.Is the increase of silica in tyres making them less durable?.anyway beware of stones steven.

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Re: 18 months in 1.6 petrol Takuya
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2016, 10:06:56 PM »
The rubber does feel soft and tacky compared to old style tyres however could just be bad luck. Depends if it happens repeatedly. They do feel different to the touch may be what is required to get both low resistance and noise while keeping high wet grip levels.

I lost 5 continentals in 2 years to punctures and cuts..strangely enough I would never put them on my car again.
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